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It's Stroud and it shouldn't even be close

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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12 minutes ago, Basbear said:

If the panthers had a 49ers or iggles(without hurts) roster, I could be talked into AR at #1.

Its just not the case here. 

Fit wise, stroud is the clear pick. 

I also prefer the "ball placement machine" because he most closely fits what I value in a quarterback.

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33 minutes ago, Basbear said:

If the panthers had a 49ers or iggles(without hurts) roster, I could be talked into AR at #1.

Its just not the case here. 

Fit wise, stroud is the clear pick. 

Actually if we had a 49ers or Eagles roster, I'd say Young would be the choice. 

Better suited for an immediate 3 year window, where his size and injury risk because of it is a bit mitigated. I'm not really worried about Young making it through a couple seasons, I'm worried about him being healthy into that 2nd and 3rd contract, to be a long term franchise QB.

I think Stroud fits our roster perfectly from that sense.  We're still a couple years away from being able to actually contend for a championship, so let Stroud grow the next few years while we are a borderline playoff team, and then when the rest of the team is in place, he's hitting his stride and we can contend for a SB.

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5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Actually if we had a 49ers or Eagles roster, I'd say Young would be the choice. 

Better suited for an immediate 3 year window, where his size and injury risk because of it is a bit mitigated. I'm not really worried about Young making it through a couple seasons, I'm worried about him being healthy into that 2nd and 3rd contract, to be a long term franchise QB.

I think Stroud fits our roster perfectly from that sense.  We're still a couple years away from being able to actually contend for a championship, so let Stroud grow the next few years while we are a borderline playoff team, and then when the rest of the team is in place, he's hitting his stride and we can contend for a SB.

AR is just the highest upside and youre able to swim in deep water cause the rest of the team can carry a QB. NFL keeps adding rules to protect QBs, but Im firmly off the young train. 

*But young and stroud are the most ready form this group.  Given the QB contract, finding a legit one on rookie contract breaks the system. panthers needs some good fortune...  

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1 minute ago, Basbear said:

AR is just the highest upside and youre able to swim in deep water cause the rest of the team can carry a QB. NFL keeps adding rules to protect QBs, but Im firmly off the young train. 

*But young and stroud are the most ready form this group.  Given the QB contract, finding a legit one on rookie contract breaks the system. panthers needs some good fortune...  

The 49ers just wasted 2 years of prime SB contention because of trading up to take a similar prospect to Richardson with Lance.

If they had taken someone like Young, they probably win the SB one of these past two years.

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3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

The 49ers just wasted 2 years of prime SB contention because of trading up to take a similar prospect to Richardson with Lance.

If they had taken someone like Young, they probably win the SB one of these past two years.

Thats the risk, if trey ended up being that "guy". They'd have at least one SB, plus while the pay is low, they keep spending on lines. He wasnt ready and coofus ruin everyone. Im glad it didnt happen and i was one of the biggest "draft trey" people on here. 

I believe there is some juice about having a 7 QB plan (rookie contract and 2 tags), then trade them for kings haul and recycle the plan....

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5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Thats the risk, if trey ended up being that "guy". They'd have at least one SB, plus while the pay is low, they keep spending on lines. He wasnt ready and coofus ruin everyone. Im glad it didnt happen and i was one of the biggest "draft trey" people on here. 

I believe there is some juice about having a 7 QB plan (rookie contract and 2 tags), then trade them for kings haul and recycle the plan....

Not really though, Lance still could be that "guy" but he never was going to be that player in his first couple years, he was always going to be a project in the same way Richardson will be, which is why they kept Jimmy G around.

Lance was never going to be the starter as a rookie, if they had been able to draft Young last year, they'd have traded Jimmy G immediately and Young would have been their week 1 starter, guaranteed.

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