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Plan for a veteran QB is what?

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"The days of a traditional pocket passer are over" - Frank Reich.

"You need a mobile quarterback that can make plays when the pocket breaks down" - Frank Reich 

"You need a leader at the position that can elevate the play of others around him, someone others will respect and play hard for." - Frank Reich 

There's a lot more clues if you care to listen to the man. Doesn't mean Richardson is that guy.   Just saying there are clues as to what he's looking for if you listen to what he's actually saying instead of what you want to hear.

 

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4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

"The days of a traditional pocket passer are over" - Frank Reich.

"You need a mobile quarterback that can make plays when the pocket breaks down" - Frank Reich 

"You need a leader at the position that can elevate the play of others around him, someone others will respect and play hard for." - Frank Reich 

There's a lot more clues if you care to listen to the man. Doesn't mean Richardson is that guy.   Just saying there are clues as to what he's looking for if you listen to what he's actually saying instead of what you want to hear.

Reich also made it pretty clear that passing is still the top priority. In his words, "at some point you're going to have to be able to win the game from the pocket".

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11 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

"The days of a traditional pocket passer are over" - Frank Reich.

"You need a mobile quarterback that can make plays when the pocket breaks down" - Frank Reich 

"You need a leader at the position that can elevate the play of others around him, someone others will respect and play hard for." - Frank Reich 

There's a lot more clues if you care to listen to the man. Doesn't mean Richardson is that guy.   Just saying there are clues as to what he's looking for if you listen to what he's actually saying instead of what you want to hear.

 

Right now, I think Bryce Young is the guy with Richardson as the dark horse. All the "PG mentality" stuff screams Bryce Young, but the "go be Superman on 3rd down" screams Anthony Richardson.

I wish I had better insight on what they're thinking, I'm just trying to make wild speculations based on cherry picked comments. 😂

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Reich also made it pretty clear that passing is still the top priority. In his words, "at some point you're going to have to be able to win the game from the pocket".

Of course.  Tell me which of these guys that cannot make a play from a clean pocket? That's easy for any average nfl gb. The problem is a clean pocket is not very common in the nfl.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Right now, I think Bryce Young is the guy with Richardson as the dark horse. All the "PG mentality" stuff screams Bryce Young, but the "go be Superman on 3rd down" screams Anthony Richardson.

I wish I had better insight on what they're thinking, I'm just trying to make wild speculations based on cherry picked comments. 😂

Mike Lombardi agrees with you on Young but not on Richardson...

 

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Right now, I think Bryce Young is the guy with Richardson as the dark horse. All the "PG mentality" stuff screams Bryce Young, but the "go be Superman on 3rd down" screams Anthony Richardson.

I wish I had better insight on what they're thinking, I'm just trying to make wild speculations based on cherry picked comments. 😂

 

That's what we all are doing. I honestly do not know where they are going with this. I do know that right now Richardson is climbing in this draft at an alarming rate. I've seen a lot of prognostication say he goes to the Colts at 4. Everyone loves his potential but caviot it with he needs the right situation.  Then say his bet fit is the Colts who can develop him. Like the Panthers do not have better coaching. 

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7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

That's what we all are doing. I honestly do not know where they are going with this. I do know that right now Richardson is climbing in this draft at an alarming rate. I've seen a lot of prognostication say he goes to the Colts at 4. Everyone loves his potential but caviot it with he needs the right situation.  Then say his bet fit is the Colts who can develop him. Like the Panthers do not have better coaching. 

Anthony Richardson is going to get people fired. People are going to get fired for drafting him if he's a bust or people are going to get fired for passing on him if he isn't. Either way, Anthony Richardson is going to be behind some NFL pink slips.

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Mike Lombardi agrees with you on Young but not on Richardson...

 

Did Lombardi mention that Young has not worked from under center? There's a reason he works exclusively from the shotgun. I've also heard one pro wr say that they hated playing with a short qb because the could not see them in the pocket and could not tell where they were looking to pass.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Anthony Richardson is going to get people fired. People are going to get fired for drafting him if he's a bust or people are going to get fired for passing on him if he isn't. Either way, Anthony Richardson is going to be behind some NFL pink slips.

 

All of these guys have that same potential to get people fired.  If whoever is selected doesn't pan out whoever made the call will be shown the door. None of them are sure fire prospects. 

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9 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

All of these guys have that same potential to get people fired.  If whoever is selected doesn't pan out whoever made the call will be shown the door. None of them are sure fire prospects. 

AR is just different though. It's all going to seem so obvious in hindsight.

If he booms, well no duh. "How can a guy THIS talented not be great? How did you numbskulls not see this??? You're all fired!!!"

If he busts, well no duh. "How can a guy who had such pedestrian stats and awful completion percentage in college ever translate to the NFL? How did you numbskulls not see this???? You're all fired!!!"

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Anthony Richardson is going to get people fired. People are going to get fired for drafting him if he's a bust or people are going to get fired for passing on him if he isn't. Either way, Anthony Richardson is going to be behind some NFL pink slips.

I see Richardson as the kind of guy who's going to generate a lot of really cool highlights and excite a lot of fans but fall short when it comes to winning playoff games and such.

A lot like Michael Vick, basically...

(some would say Lamar Jackson too but it's kinda early)

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