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Chris Mortensen: Bryce Young is the pick, they all love Bryce Young

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Just now, ickmule said:

I’m cautiously optimistic, but won’t put much energy into yet. It’s Tepper, so I’m leery. 

Tepper has admitted to his failures, and I consider that a good sign.

At the same time though, Tepper isn't really my focus. Fitterer, Morgan, Reich, Suleiman, the rest of the staff and the addition of Adrian Wilson...these are my reasons for encouragement.

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CJ Stroud will be the pick.  Bryce Young ceiling is Alex Smith.  While Bryce Young football IQ is thru the roof, he has a noodle arm and slow release which will limit him to being a game manager and not an elite QB.  People who comparing Young to Brees, completely disregard Bree release time and zip on the ball.  Brees could uncork 60 yard lob pass similar to Russell Wilson which Young can’t do.

NFL models predicted for Young to be successful in NFL would need to be surrounded by top OL at all times to compensate for lack of arm strength. 

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Will do. My bro-in-law had it a few years back. The doc believed it was caused by the HPV when he was younger. He still seems to be doing fine after a couple of years though. He goes to the doc every few months now for a checkup. Your friend must be going for his regular checkups, and it's good that they caught it. Having good doctors is extremely important. The radiation and chemo are rough, but as long as they caught it in time, it's better than the alternative. 

Yep, same cause. My buddy avoided surgery the first go-round (aside from a feeding tube and IV access for chemo) but he’s preparing for a big surgery this time. And I know he’s scared (he and I are both nurses and have seen the aftermath of these neck dissections) but he’s a tough motherfuger and won’t ever give up. 

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Big Hit Sack GIF by Clemson Tigers

Scary, but imagine a full grown 30yr old man delivering that.

Whole different league. I'm already holding my breath if that's my QB, but 5'10" 190lbs wet Bryce.

I'd have a heart attack every time that happened and Young just has that Robby Anderson build that doesn't bode well to getting rocked.

I've watched Chosen get rocked quite a few times and get up slowly and those weren't DTs or LBs iirc.

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3 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Big Hit Sack GIF by Clemson Tigers

Scary, but imagine a full grown 30yr old man delivering that.

Whole different league. I'm already holding my breath if that's my QB, but 5'10" 190lbs wet Bryce.

I'd have a heart attack every time that happened and Young just has that Robby Anderson build that doesn't bode well to getting rocked.

I've watched Chosen get rocked quite a few times and get up slowly and those weren't DTs or LBs iirc.

And Young already missed time with shoulder injuries before even hitting NFL.

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1 minute ago, Lame Duck said:

And Young already missed time with shoulder injuries before even hitting NFL.

I just don't want to see the inevitable happen. If he's that great of an athlete he needs to change positions in the NFL to maybe WR for his own safety and chance of actually having a long NFL career.

Matt Corral and CJ Stroud are at the NFL average height but ideally body wise you need a AR, Cam, Big Ben(early), Dan Jones, Manning, Levis, Herbert body type to survive behind the trenches is a super big, super strong, super fast NFL.

Drew Brees, Doug Flutie, Russell Wilson are not the norm, but acceptions.

Young is a huge mistake, years ago as skilled as he is he'd be a position change candidate instead of this kooky #1 QB talk.

He doesn't have the required size for the next level and will struggle to put on and hold weight.

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      I personally think you are trying to talk yourself into circles here... It's ok to say Bryce played incredible the last 5 weeks... I know there are plenty of people on this board who desperately need the doom-and-gloom narrative, but I genuinely question how much NFL QB play some of these people really have watched when they still question him being the unquestioned starter for next year...  Again, that being said, no one is crowning him at all. I think Bryce is one of the best stories going into 2025 bc his season last year was so outlandishly unprecedented. It's totally fair to personally not believe in Bryce. Plenty of sports "journalists" need to write stories, and that's an easy narrative path... But I think that actual people in the know rank Bryce much higher. That's the fun thing about sports... we shall see!
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      Regardless of how we got here, any rational fan should be excited by how well Bryce played down the stretch. Anyone not happy about that level of play either doesn't know what they're looking at, or they're still trying to drive tired narratives. Obviously, Cam had an all-time rookie season, and I'm not putting the two in the same basket yet, but as someone who has watched every snap of Panthers football since the start of the new millennium (Im old), Bryce was playing at a higher level at the end of 2024 than Cam was at the end of 2012 (his 2nd season). Cam continued to develop into MVP form, something Bryce has to prove, but as someone who watched both (and will stan for Cam always), Bryce was playing at a higher level to end year 2 than Cam did.  Go watch the film if you dont believe me. None of that means anything for the future. But the people who said BY9 couldnt play in this league are wrong.   That being said, the only thing that matters is this year. #20 is perfectly fair IMO going into the season. I mean think about it, how would you rank him??!  His in-season turnaround is one of the wildest things I've ever seen... how do you rank a guy who looked like a massive bust in September and by January was consistently playing at a top 10 level? My excitement level is pretty damn high heading into this season. There were throws from the Chiefs game onward where Bryce had Drew Brees levels of anticipation. Im excited to see what he can do with a full deck on offense, something we really never gave Cam. Really hope and expect Bryce to move up this list this season.  
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      Not really, the only QB's (other than Anthony Richardson) ranked below him are new to their teams as a placeholder starter or drafted in 2024 or 2025, not a lot of gymnastics to get there. It's not about how many that is, if it's 20, 12, or 2... It means there isn't a QB who's team has committed to them for the long term right now that they have ranked below Bryce. That's not a great thing.
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