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Gerry Green

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13 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Scrambled pocket passer. Any NFL DC can take that away what will he do next? He's not Kyler. Ohhhhhh, he's going to learn how to run in the open field in the NFL with hawks and owls?

You guys are more crazy than those trying to explain just why there are prototypes and why AR is much safer at #1 than BY because of the Cam Newton model WE already put forth as a franchise in the NFL.

BY isn't even Kyler, can't run the rock. This frame, type of player, hasn't been done before.

6'5" 240+lbs, running like a deer, trucking like a Mack, throwing over mountains, THAT has been done before. We have a NFC Championship to prove it.

Go big or GO HOME.

 

So you want your QB to sacrifice themselves meeting LBs in the open field instead of picking defences apart with their arm ok cool. 

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32 minutes ago, Varking said:

Not like CJ did this past year. And there’s plenty of footage of CJ moving around to miss tackles or extend the play but the rep here is he is a statue. It’s whatever 

I've looked at several analyses, and Young is a better tight window thrower than CJ is a scrambler, inside or outside the pocket. C.J. is the best pure thrower in the draft, and that is his claim to fame. It's no small thing, but he's closer to just an average guy pertaining to pocket awareness and the ability to extend plays. Bryce does not have an issue with throwing from the pocket or throwing into tight windows. That's not a weakness of his in the slightest.  I don't see why anyone that's actually been researching these guys would have a problem with admitting these things.

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4 hours ago, Gerry Green said:

He isn't fast enough to outrun anyone.

What?

Just because you aren't as fast as Lamar Jackson doesn't mean you aren't fast enough to outrun a good amount of defenders.  And it isn't like Bryce's game was dependent on outrunning anyway.  He makes people miss with his ability to cut on a dime, which absolutely translates to Sunday.

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2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com/2023/04/19/anthony-richardsons-accuracy-a-closer-look/

"Quarterbacks with similar draft profiles like Josh Allen and Justin Herbert (official ripp bandwagon player)have been huge successes, so taking a risk here is tantalizing considering both these recent anecdotes and the fact that there’s no consensus franchise prospect this year like an Andrew Luck or a Trevor Lawrence."

 

"But Richardson is more than just a physically-gifted fixer-upper. He’s consistently shown some high-level quarterback play on film and is more refined than most people think. He generally does a good job of getting through his progressions and throwing with anticipation, and his pocket movement is already very good, especially for a 21-year-old. The results haven’t been there, though, and that’s largely due to issues with accuracy."

 

Frank Reich:

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Lol you're just making this harder on yourself.

Start coping, man 

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3 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

So you want your QB to sacrifice themselves meeting LBs in the open field instead of picking defences apart with their arm ok cool. 

I don't think he wants a QB using his brain. He wants them to bulldoze everything.

MOAR POWER!!!!

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6 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

So you want your QB to sacrifice themselves meeting LBs in the open field instead of picking defences apart with their arm ok cool. 

He has blockers and field vision and Cam was underappreciated for learning a sweet baseball slide nobody cared to even notice. AR can work on that right away. 

If Corral looks good, run him until AR is ready. If Corral looks great, AR is QB2 this year, one play away.

Same exact playbook because they're similar aside from accuracy at the moment both big arms, both can run the rock and punish defenses doing so.

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5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I've looked at several analyses, and Young is a better tight window thrower than CJ is a scrambler, inside or outside the pocket. C.J. is the best pure thrower in the draft, and that is his claim to fame. It's no small thing, but he's closer to just an average guy pertaining to pocket awareness and the ability to extend plays. Bryce does not have an issue with throwing from the pocket or throwing into tight windows. That's not a weakness of his in the slightest.  I don't see why anyone that's actually been researching these guys would have a problem with admitting these things.

Guess who else threw a pretty ball when everything was in sync but also had reports of being hard to coach Josh Rosen 

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2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

He has blockers and field vision and Cam was underappreciated for learning a sweet baseball slide nobody cared to even notice. AR can work on that right away. 

If Corral looks good, run him until AR is ready. If Corral looks great, AR is QB2 this year, one play away.

Corral took 2 steps and got hurt with an injury history following him from college and your here running down Young about injuries that might happen

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