Jake Delhomme would suck as a back-up!

[Zod]

As I said earlier he had a bad year as a starter but he could win a few games and did this year.

Not losing a game is not the same as winning a game.

[jramsey4]

ORLY?

QB Rating = 59 WITH a completely healthy offense.

Wherein Moore in the past 2 games is average a rating of 131 and 3tds 0ints. This minus 2 (some would say Otah as well) all-pros, at LT (most important passing blocker as it protects the blindside) and RB (Dwill is IMHO the best RB in the league, homer I know).

Jake is washed up. I said it after the Cards loss and again after ever game this year. Yeah he can put together a good game ever now and then but just as likely he turns the ball over 3 or 4 times. I want a guy at backup that has potential is young and mobile.

If you can develop him you then can become the Pats and produce a 2nd round pick from a guy you got in the 7th. I really like what I have seen out of Troy Smith and think he would be an excellent #2 and maybe in a fair competition beat out Moore.

I like the way we went after a RG last year. Sign a bunch of guys with talent that maybe have not got a shot or struggled in a different system for cheap.

[SorthNarolina]

I'm wondering if the uncapped year that we may be having will make it easier to just let him go.

it would be great if we were able to do that.

[ladypanther]

Not losing a game is not the same as winning a game.

Truth!

[panthers55]

Backups do not get a multi-year, multimillion dollar contract.

Mccown, and Feely can hand of the ball just as good as Jake. Get Over It.

The multi year contract is water under the bridge. IF they were deciding today they wouldn't be giving it to him but they already did. Neither McCown or Feeley will be here based on what I have heard. So again if you are going to pay him already you might as well as get some use out of him rather than just throw it away.

[rico6]

How much was Drew Bledsoe getting paid before Dallas figured he was crap?

Answer=Rep

[frash.exe]

Moore has played well and deserves to start in my opinion but this is not what we are discussing so why bring it up? We are talking backup only and in that role jake would be fine and we already committed money we will lose already one way or the other.

This is not about bringing Jake back as the starter simply the best way to salvage the situation as it stands. For me you start Moore, keep Jake as the backup and bring in a FA or a draft choice to compete for the third position or the number 2 if Jake continues to struggle.

I was addressing what you said here

has been bad this year but he is not nearly as bad as portrayed by all you haters.

Whether or not you think Moore should start you think Jake should back him up which means in the event of an injury you still think, after this atrocious season he's had that he can still lead an NFL offense up to an acceptable standard.

[panthers55]

Wherein Moore in the past 2 games is average a rating of 131 and 3tds 0ints. This minus 2 (some would say Otah as well) all-pros, at LT (most important passing blocker as it protects the blindside) and RB (Dwill is IMHO the best RB in the league, homer I know).

Jake is washed up. I said it after the Cards loss and again after ever game this year. Yeah he can put together a good game ever now and then but just as likely he turns the ball over 3 or 4 times. I want a guy at backup that has potential is young and mobile.

If you can develop him you then can become the Pats and produce a 2nd round pick from a guy you got in the 7th. I really like what I have seen out of Troy Smith and think he would be an excellent #2 and maybe in a fair competition beat out Moore.

I like the way we went after a RG last year. Sign a bunch of guys with talent that maybe have not got a shot or struggled in a different system for cheap.

Problem with the backup is that he is one injury from starting. Who wants to bring in an upcoming young talent who is unproven and turn over the reigns if Moore goes down? Remember that that 7th rounder that Ne developed sat on the roster as long as Moore did.

What has Troy Smith done? His rating this year is a 21.

Keep throwing out all these backups who would be available and cheap and so much better than keeping Jake.

[panthers55]

I was addressing what you said here

Whether or not you think Moore should start you think Jake should back him up which means in the event of an injury you still think, after this atrocious season he's had that he can still lead an NFL offense up to an acceptable standard.

Who knows what will happen. Again he is available, paid for, and as good as a lot of other backups.

[panthers55]

Not losing a game is not the same as winning a game.

But that is what backups are for. You want a guy who will not lose the game for you. Starters are the ones who are paid to win the game.

[pantherpain]

The only people that can defend Jake in anyway after what he's done this year with a straight face are people he either came out of or is going into.

[jramsey4]

Problem with the backup is that he is one injury from starting. Who wants to bring in an upcoming young talent who is unproven and turn over the reigns if Moore goes down? Remember that that 7th rounder that Ne developed sat on the roster as long as Moore did.

What has Troy Smith done? His rating this year is a 21.

Keep throwing out all these backups who would be available and cheap and so much better than keeping Jake.

I can name backups until the cows came home that are better then Jake at this point in his career.

So lets see a guy that has potential to be good or bad or guy that is just bad? Jake isn't getting any younger. His physical skills are diminishing and lets face it he wasn't the most gifted passer to begin with. I want no QB that can put up 6 TO in a game all by his lonesome. And whats bad is those types of performances happened more often then even his average days.

[Zod]

Who knows what will happen. Again he is available, paid for, and as good as a lot of other backups.

True, and there are many low priced rookies or second year prospects out there than can hand the ball off as good as anyone. They also have an upside of possibly improving as starter or trade material.

[panthers55]

I can name backups until the cows came home that are better then Jake at this point in his career. So lets see a guy that has potential to be good or bad or guy that is just bad? Jake isn't getting any younger. His physical skills are diminishing and lets face it he wasn't the most gifted passer to begin with.

And really this discussion is useless because Jake will be back here I suspect. And wishing it wasn't so or going around trying to name backups who would be better is a waste of time. He is under contract and guaranteed 13 million bucks. He is going nowhere.