If Bryce busts, was that the worst trade in the history of the NFL?

[Jay Roosevelt]

1 hour ago, Captroop said:

I don't see how you can evaluate a trade except by taking the outcome into account. Evaluating the hypothetical value is pointless.

That's like rationalizing spending $100k on lottery tickets because you COULD have won the Powerball that's worth billions. That logic didn't work on my wife, and it doesn't work here.

The time to debate the value of the trade up to #1 should taken place before the pick was made. Now it's made, so the trade should be evaluated based on what Bryce cost us, what Bryce has produced, and the icing on this shitcake is witnessing the opportunity cost in the form of Stroud.

I don't disagree. But as someone has said if we had made the same trade and drafted Stroud nobody would consider it a bad deal. There are some who argued before we even made the pick that it wasn't worth it regardless of whether we picked a franchise QB or a bust, which is nonsense.

[electro's horse]

On 10/2/2023 at 7:09 PM, thennek said:

If CMC ends up with a HOF career then the Panthers trade to the 49’ers ends up being the worst Panthers trade…..I was shocked by how little they got for one of the best offensive weapons in the game. He is more than a RB…..

 

terrible contract and he was never able to stay healthy. Remember, he only played 10 games the previous two seasons. Most observers praised the compensation the panthers received for that trade, and as bitter a pill it is to swallow I think it as the good move. They just didn't follow it up with good moves so it makes things worse in retrospect. They took those picks and let Tepper's wife draft a 35 year old linebacker who has barely cracked the roster. 

The world where CMC is still doing well with the Panthers is also probably a world Reich isn't hired, Wilkes is given the HC position, and Bryce is never drafted. Obviously we all want that world. CMC on this current version of the Panthers would be completely wasted. Just getting tee'd off on behind the line of scrimmage and would probably be hurt. It'd be like the end of 2019 when they were just force feeding him to get him a record. 

It sucks but I'm glad he's not here. Dude might win MVP this year and all Panthers fans should be happy for him. If they win the Super Bowl, I'll be cheering for him. Guy was the definition of class as a Panther, embodied Keep Pounding if ANYONE did, and if they want to put him in the ring of honor one day I'd be all for it. 

[strato]

Worst because he was so clearly inadequate. Herschel was a beast, a proven player. 

If I were a Vikes fan I wouldn’t say that but this is the worst case ever for a team, I don’t know what was worse. This has monumental consequences if The Panthers are of any kind of importance to you. 

 

BTW These morning guys on WFNZ are truly tards, while I am venting.  

[Panthers Fan 69]

7 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Also lance got hurt. It’s just not a fair comparison. 
 

also lol “if” Bryce busts 

Fans won’t remember Lance becasue they hit with Purdy in the 7th.  

[Panthers Fan 69]

A definition of a colossal bust carries so much weight. If you miss on players like Jamarcus Russell or Ryan leaf it’s can really set you back a years. The reason this hurts so much with Bryce is the picks we gave away and how much worse the trades made this team horrible ….and here it is…across the board. The whole team is trash because of losing those pics and trading away players.  
 

I personally think this was one f the worst trades in NFL history because of how bad it made the team.   

Edited December 11, 2023 by Panthers Fan 69

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

17 minutes ago, strato said:

Worst because he was so clearly inadequate. Herschel was a beast, a proven player. 

If I were a Vikes fan I wouldn’t say that but this is the worst case ever for a team, I don’t know what was worse. This has monumental consequences if The Panthers are of any kind of importance to you. 

 

BTW These morning guys on WFNZ are truly tards, while I am venting.  

It’s gonna suck when the Bears recreate the Cowboy’s 90s dynasty off of our stupidity 

[electro's horse]

6 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

It’s gonna suck when the Bears recreate the Cowboy’s 90s dynasty off of our stupidity 

It's the bears

they're going to fug it up. 

[Varking]

Just now, electro's horse said:

It's the bears

they're going to fug it up. 

They are +2 wins over last season after dealing with us. We are -6 right now. They are showing improvement. We are currently, actually, what your head thinks of the Bears. 

[Waldo]

Trading Moore made it a bad trade. You don't send what little talent you have away from the rookie QB you are picking, just dumb from any angle. Young and capable WR replaced with another 2nd round typical Panther WR special. Dumb.

Picking Young made it an epically and historically bad trade. Young as a prospect wasn't nearly as good as a lot were yelling everywhere and it ended up being embarrassingly wrong. Young on this team with how it was built was stupid. Young with Reich was stupid. 

And no the Texans wouldn't be doing great with Young. They would just have wasted 1 first rounder and not another one, a starting WR and even more draft capital. They may have 2 or even 3 wins but if you think Young would be lighting it up like Stroud then you are still missing the obvious other parts of why Young is not going to pull out from the bust tailspin he is in now. 

[csx]

25 minutes ago, Varking said:

They are +2 wins over last season after dealing with us. We are -6 right now. They are showing improvement. We are currently, actually, what your head thinks of the Bears. 

They aren't mutually exclusive.