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Just speculating... I wouldn't be surprised if Frank or Fitt is fired soon. Very soon.

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Here is what I can do for you....I can find your team saying X and X not ending up being the truth on many occasions.  And I can do that for essentially every single NFL team.  Again, you some how have opted to selectively remove from this equation what NFL teams have proven to be year after year after year after year after year. 

I know what Frank's O is.   It's what we installed here.  My proof of that is in Indy and SD.   There also is just flat out common sense being applied there too.  And not letting some fluff article from a team that is set on painting an image/idea....trump everything we actually know. 

I have no idea how much Brown has been involved and the room he has had in tweaking Frank's O.  How much power he had then....and how much power he has now that Frank suddenly deemed his offense clicking and in a big enough groove and successful enough to hand over....meanwhile it was  0-6 and one of the worst offenses in the NFL (and clearly NOT what Frank claimed it was when he on his own accord, according to him, decided to hand it over to Brown)

Thomas Brown: "I wrote the offense"

CRA: "No, you didn't, because I said so!"

Who to believe? 🤔

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Step one: not CRA  

 

That fine.  Listen to whoever you want. 

All I know is, I essentially spoke on and called everything that has been happening this season before the season kicked off.   And people didn't like that.  That's not true CRA, Fitt said X.  Frank said Y!!!!

I did the same last year too.   That season played out exactly how I said.  My batting average is pretty freaking strong of late in terms of this team. 

Does that make me smart? No.  I just don't listen to a NFL team blowing bullshit anymore.  And bad franchises spew way more bullshit than good ones.   And that bullshit they spew is often the basis of a lot of your lecturing. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well in this case, it would be the facts according to Thomas Brown.

Would you suggest that you have more intimate knowledge of what actually happened than he does?

What exactly is Thomas Brown supposed to say if what Frank Reich has already told everyone isn't true?

What if Thomas Brown actually believes he had legit input into the playbook if Reich basically paid him lip service while basically installing his playbook? Have you never been involved in a situation where you watch someone get manipulated into believing what they want to believe already by a skilled manipulator?

I mean, I'm watching it right now. 😂

Actions speak louder than words. I'll always lean more heavily on actions and results vs. pre-season PR pieces. I mean, I honestly thought the Panthers were overselling how much they believed this team was ready to compete until I watched them operate this off-season. They weren't lying. They believed that poo.

 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

That fine.  Listen to whoever you want. 

All I know is, I essentially spoke on and called everything that has been happening this season before the season kicked off.   And people didn't like that.  That's not true CRA, Fitt said X.  Frank said Y!!!!

I did the same last year too.   That season played out exactly how I said.  My batting average is pretty freaking strong of late in terms of this team. 

Does that make me smart? No.  I just don't listen to a NFL team blowing bullshit anymore.  And bad franchises spew way more bullshit than good ones.   And that bullshit they spew is often the basis of a lot of your lecturing. 

Translation: "Trust me, bro"

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

What exactly is Thomas Brown supposed to say if what Frank Reich has already told everyone isn't true?

What if Thomas Brown actually believes he had legit input into the playbook if Reich basically paid him lip service while basically installing his playbook? Have you never been involved in a situation where you watch someone get manipulated into believing what they want to believe already by a skilled manipulator?

I mean, I'm watching it right now. 😂

Actions speak louder than words. I'll always lean more heavily on actions and results vs. pre-season PR pieces. I mean, I honestly thought the Panthers were overselling how much they believed this team was ready to compete until I watched them operate this off-season. They weren't lying. They believed that poo.

You're seriously arguing that Brown might have lied about having written the playbook? And this at a time when nothing yet had even happened?

Damn, dude.

I've gotta believe this is just because you want to argue with me, which basically means that's so important to you that you're willing to go out on a limb and say stuff this crazy.

Then you turn around and say I'm the one that insists on being right no matter what? 

Oy 😖

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're seriously arguing that Brown might have lied about having written the playbook? And this at a time when nothing yet had even happened?

Damn, dude.

I've gotta believe this is just because you want to argue with me, which basically means that's so important to you that you're willing to go out on a limb and say stuff this crazy.

Then you turn around and say I'm the one that insists on being right no matter what? 

Oy 😖

It's all so predictable. 😂

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It's all so predictable. 😂

No, can't say I ever would have predicted anyone actually arguing something as ridiculous as this.

Do you guys so desperately need me to be wrong that you'll resort to arguing this kind of goofball conspiracy stuff?

That sounds like an emotional issue.

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5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

https://www.panthers.com/news/how-thomas-brown-and-frank-reich-blended-offensive-philosophies
 

Looks like Brown definitely had some input. To what degree is anyone’s guess. 

Philosophies and such, yes.

The actual playbook? Brown describes that here...

Brown dives into the work behind creating an all-new playbook

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because one is reporting and one is speculation.

"I think we're ready to win' is an opinion. Maybe it's genuine, maybe it's not, but you can judge that by the situation.

"I wrote the offense" is a statement of fact. What point would there be lying about it prior to the season even starting?

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