What I realized about a Burns Trade:

[SaltAndPepper]

I was watching Colin Cowherd for the herdline news when they brought up Thomas Brown, and as usual instead of sticking to the topic they go off on a random tangent, this time, would the Panthers be sellers at the trade deadline? Logically they brought up Brian Burns because he's the only semi-household name on the team. When both of them tried to think about playoff teams that would part with draft capital to make a Super Bowl push, they couldn't. Their best guess was Miami (but they already paid Bradley Chubb). Eventually they went silent for 10 seconds before moving on... But it made me think. 

Who would he even get traded to? or more specific, Who needs him? 




These are the 7 playoff teams. This thought experiment goes off of the assumptions that 1) These are the playoff teams we'll see in January. 2) They won't trade for someone else. This also keeps in mind that Burns is not really good in the running game, so teams aren't really tradiing him for run support. 

Starting with the AFC: 

1) Kansas City Chiefs:  Tied for the 12th most sacks (17). They have Chris Jones, and George Karlaftis (1st Round Pick). Trade Viability: 3/10
2) Miami Dolphins: Tied for the 3rd most sacks (21). They traded for Bradley Chubb last year for 1st Rd. Pick + change, and gave him long term money. Also have to pay Tua and Waddle. Trade Viability: 0/10

 

[kungfoodude]

We had a trade for him to the Rams. Something like that will never materialize again. 

There are very few teams that would even bother at this point. They will just wait until he holds out on a franchise tag so they can get him dirt cheap by comparison.

May as well give up on the idea of any sort of major compensation. That time has passed.

[SaltAndPepper]

I'm sorry for making two, but the other thread has my full analysis. If the mods can delete this one for me, or lock it,  much love. 

[pantherclaw]

I ignore the trade rumors. He's not going anywhere. 

[LinvilleGorge]

37 minutes ago, SaltAndPepper said:

I was watching Colin Cowherd 

 

[lightsout]

He's played himself into being largely undesirable to any contender. We're looking at bad teams in desperate need of pass rushing potential, if anything. And they're not going to give a first so you're looking at 2s and 3s instead.

[Lurk21]

Detroit would be 1 team I look at but we definitely  missed out on trading him 2 separate  times already. To the Rams and to move up for Bryce. We could've possibly kept our 1st next year by including him. 

[IndyPanther]

9 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

Detroit would be 1 team I look at but we definitely  missed out on trading him 2 separate  times already. To the Rams and to move up for Bryce. We could've possibly kept our 1st next year by including him. 

I doubt they would've taken 2 players in the trade for cap reasons, but rumor has it they wanted him over Moore.

[Lurk21]

1 minute ago, IndyPanther said:

I doubt they would've taken 2 players in the trade for cap reasons, but rumor has it they wanted him over Moore.

That's what I was saying. Swapping out Burns for Moore. We dropped the ball regardless. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We had a trade for him to the Rams. Something like that will never materialize again. 

There are very few teams that would even bother at this point. They will just wait until he holds out on a franchise tag so they can get him dirt cheap by comparison.

May as well give up on the idea of any sort of major compensation. That time has passed.

Yeah I smell another 2009/10 Peppers situation.  Tag and trades are rare because the player doesn't have to sign the tender and until they do, things are at a standstill.  Unless there's a strong possibility of the player being traded somewhere they actually want to go with a fat contract extension waiting for them, they don't have to do poo until they risk missing game checks.  Especially if signing an extension with the current team is off the table.

[IndyPanther]

1 minute ago, Lurk21 said:

That's what I was saying. Swapping out Burns for Moore. We dropped the ball regardless. 

Makes sense. I was just pointing out that I don't think the deal gets done without this years first included, Burns or not.

[IndyPanther]

1 minute ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

they don't have to do poo

I'm new here today. Is there a story behind the "poo" thing? I feel like I haven't seen anyone use the word this way anywhere before. And then today I've read it here like 100 times.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

5 minutes ago, IndyPanther said:

I'm new here today. Is there a story behind the "poo" thing? I feel like I haven't seen anyone use the word this way anywhere before. And then today I've read it here like 100 times.

The horrible "s" word is censored to "poo" on this here site

[Jay Roosevelt]

Why does it have to be to a playoff team?