The elephant in the zone

[Mr. Scot]

 

[Mr. Scot]

More of John digging into personnel and scheme issues with regard to talent...

 

[Mr. Scot]

And what could have been...

With an interesting comment from a respondent...

Wonder if JJ has a future here beyond his playing days

[Ricky Spanish]

So I found this Reddit Thread from 8 years ago complaining about Reich trying to force his square peg Zone blocking scheme onto a round hole power offensive line:

It's just inexcusable at this point.

[Buckets]

so did the scheme change from last season?  campen was here last season too?

[PootieNunu]

Nicole done went and coached them boys up this week..... 

The ol is fixed now. 

Edited November 17, 2023 by PootieNunu

[PootieNunu]

5 minutes ago, Buckets said:

so did the scheme change from last season?  campen was here last season too?

Yes it did. We ran man on man, power last season under Wilks. 

[jayboogieman]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

who exactly takes over at LT? Are they gonna be better?

I have an answer and they can't be worse. Behold your new LT!

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

So I found this Reddit Thread from 8 years ago complaining about Reich trying to force his square peg Zone blocking scheme onto a round hole power offensive line:

It's just inexcusable at this point.

I went back to check who has offensive line coaches were with the Colts. Initially it was a guy that came from the Patriots who didn't last long (he hasn't lasted long anywhere honestly).

For four of the five years though, the OL coach was Chris Strausser, a guy who at this moment is coaching the offensive line of the Texans.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't think Ickey would be "marginally better" at left guard. I think he'd be significantly better. The problem is that pretty much anybody we put at left tackle would also be significantly worse.

Mike Kaye suggested moving Bozeman to left guard and trying Cade Mays at center. Don't know if that works either but it's an option.

The problem though is that none of these options work unless we move to a power run heavy offense.

If we're not going to do that, then it's just Titanic deck chairs.

But what is the difference between pass protecting 40+ times a game at guard versus LT? Without scheme change, it just is what it is

[carpanfan96]

14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Said elsewhere, that's what I really don't get.

Campen would obviously know, but I find it hard to believe he's the only one. Hell, it's been called out by analysts, reporters and fans alike.

Is anybody talking about it internally?

If I know and the most I've done is highschool oline play, then the team had to know...

 

Right?

[carpanfan96]

13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

But what is the difference between pass protecting 40+ times a game at guard versus LT? Without scheme change, it just is what it is

Quite a lot actually. 

 

[ickmule]

This franchise is a 3 ring circus 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

But what is the difference between pass protecting 40+ times a game at guard versus LT? Without scheme change, it just is what it is

You have somebody on both sides of you on the interior line. They can't just take a wide path and run around you.

It tends to be a better spot for guys like Ickey who have trouble with speed rushers.