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Pick 6 was 100% on Mingo

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Brooklyn 3.0 Grand Master

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35 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

100% on Bryce.  Slow delivery, stared down his target, late on the throw, no zip on the pass, did not lead his man.  So how is this not Bryce's fault again?

This. OP hurts his very own argument with the photo because he's too hyperfocused on Mingo. That DB is STARING at Bryce and Bryce is STARING at Mingo. Dude knew exactly where that ball was going and jumped the route.

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5 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

This. OP hurts his very own argument with the photo because he's too hyperfocused on Mingo. That DB is STARING at Bryce and Bryce is STARING at Mingo. Dude knew exactly where that ball was going and jumped the route.

Even if he led Mingo to the 0 in the 30, at worse it's a PBU.  You can't be late on crossing routes. Absolute QB suicide.

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It was on Bryce, but Mingo isn't very good right now which doesn't help this whole situation either. Bryce just lacks the arm strength to jam it into tight windows. We are going to have to go with some good effing route runners that Bryce can throw to with more timing and anticipation. His 50/50 balls have been very disappointing so far. 

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18 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

This. OP hurts his very own argument with the photo because he's too hyperfocused on Mingo. That DB is STARING at Bryce and Bryce is STARING at Mingo. Dude knew exactly where that ball was going and jumped the route.

This is what I’ve noticed. He is starting to stare down his first reads and not going through progressions like he was earlier. It’s regression…

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A lot of posters in this thread showing their lack of football knowledge. OP is correct.
 

When Bryce is separating to throw, Tremble is not open. Mingo runs the route incorrectly. If Bryce waits until Tremble comes open, he’s getting pummeled bc our line can’t pass block. 
 

We have posters here that think you can screen shot the moment the ball reaches the receiver and use it to see who is open. That’s idiocy. 

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The closer it gets to the sidelines the smaller the window gets.

I know.  Believe me, I've harped at length about Bryce's accuracy beyond the numbers.  It's abysmal.  I mean, if he doesn't have the velocity to drive the ball inside the numbers, beyond them is even a bigger feat.

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Just now, ECHornet said:

A lot of posters in this thread showing their lack of football knowledge. OP is correct.
 

When Bryce is separating to throw, Tremble is not open. Mingo runs the route incorrectly. If Bryce waits until Tremble comes open, he’s getting pummeled bc our line can’t pass block. 
 

We have posters here that think you can screen shot the moment the ball reaches the receiver and use it to see who is open. That’s idiocy. 

Leave Bryce alone!

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23 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

This. OP hurts his very own argument with the photo because he's too hyperfocused on Mingo. That DB is STARING at Bryce and Bryce is STARING at Mingo. Dude knew exactly where that ball was going and jumped the route.

If Mingo holds his route, his body is a shield between the defender and the ball. Similar to stacking a db when going vertical. As soon as he drifts upfield the db can now play the ball however he wants.

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2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I know.  Believe me, I've harped at length about Bryce's accuracy beyond the numbers.  It's abysmal.  I mean, if he doesn't have the velocity to drive the ball inside the numbers, beyond them is even a bigger feat.

But this throw was outside the numbers and would have hit Mingo in the chest…

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The pick was on Bryce. Bryce has to lead Mingo more - period. Throw it out of the reach of the DB and let your WR go get it. Great play by the DB though, he really closed on the ball - he's done it 3 other times this season. And yes, a little more velocity was warranted there. 

Mingo... you always work back to the ball if you can. That's the rule. Catch the ball at it's highest point and work back to the ball. Particularly, never run away from the ball on a crossing/comeback route, and definitely not against man coverage. And... become the DB when you have a threat of an interception. At least touch the guy when he's on the ground. 

Bryce has to take more deep shots too. Take them early and often. He's becoming predictable. It's like a basketball player that's afraid to shoot the ball and always passes instead. Eventually you start to play him for the pass instead of the shot.

Did Strachan play today? Don't remember seeing him. Was looking for him. 

 

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12 minutes ago, thebdawg said:

If Mingo holds his route, his body is a shield between the defender and the ball. Similar to stacking a db when going vertical. As soon as he drifts upfield the db can now play the ball however he wants.

You don't think DBs can get in front of a WR who is shielded? Especially when they know the ball is coming their way? They're pros too.

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