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A year to early, Tepp, Fitt, Reich

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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1 minute ago, Mage said:

IMO he is going to work out if he goes to a team with stability already in place.  Too good of a talent.  Let a guy like Sean McVay or KOC work with him with those receivers and boy oh boy.

Unfortunately for Caleb, those types of teams don't pick in the top 3.  I could be wrong here but he strikes me as someone that when the going gets tough, he's not going to rebound as well as others would/will.  Especially when it isn't just losing games but him not putting up the big numbers he's used to in college.

Yeah, you're going to a poo show as a top pick. Going to a team trading up from #9 to #1 is theoretically one of the best possible scenarios as a top pick. Oh well.

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1 minute ago, Mage said:

IMO he is going to work out if he goes to a team with stability already in place.  Too good of a talent.  Let a guy like Sean McVay or KOC work with him with those receivers and boy oh boy.

Unfortunately for Caleb, those types of teams don't pick in the top 3.  I could be wrong here but he strikes me as someone that when the going gets tough, he's not going to rebound as well as others would/will.  Especially when it isn't just losing games but him not putting up the big numbers he's used to in college.

He could conceivably wind up on a Jim Harbaugh coached Bears team.

That would likely be interesting.

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5 hours ago, Ornias said:

I have a feeling the next staff is going to take a flyer on one those that drop next year anyways. 

You can't take a flyer on a 2nd or 3rd round QB the year after we made a huge trade up to take a QB #1 overall, not with as many holes as we have right now and no first round pick.

Our 2nd round pick needs to be a week 1 starter while our 3rd needs to be at worst an impact player as a rookie, if not a starter.

But I'm 100% on board with taking one in 2025 with our Top 5 pick that year and then dump Bryce.  Which is also why you can't blow a pick on a QB in this year's draft, we need to add more talent to the roster for that QB we end up taking in the 2025 1st round.

If we can find a way to pick up an extra 4th or 5th, I wouldn't be against taking someone then and seeing if we hit on one, but not with our first two picks or even our own picks, we'd need to find a way to get an extra pick in that range.

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10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

You can't take a flyer on a 2nd or 3rd round QB the year after we made a huge trade up to take a QB #1 overall, not with as many holes as we have right now and no first round pick.

Our 2nd round pick needs to be a week 1 starter while our 3rd needs to be at worst an impact player as a rookie, if not a starter.

But I'm 100% on board with taking one in 2025 with our Top 5 pick that year and then dump Bryce.  Which is also why you can't blow a pick on a QB in this year's draft, we need to add more talent to the roster for that QB we end up taking in the 2025 1st round.

If we can find a way to pick up an extra 4th or 5th, I wouldn't be against taking someone then and seeing if we hit on one, but not with our first two picks or even our own picks, we'd need to find a way to get an extra pick in that range.

Yeah, I think Bryce is a bust at this point but given the investment you have to give him two years and put the best possible unit around him. If he's not significantly better next year, swing again in '25.

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Yeah, I think Bryce is a bust at this point but given the investment you have to give him two years and put the best possible unit around him. If he's not significantly better next year, swing again in '25.

Oh Bryce is absolutely a bust, he's already proven that he's never going to be elite, even with a better team around him, league average QB is his absolute peak potential, and that's if EVERYTHING goes perfectly right for him the rest of his career, which let's be real, seems a low probability anyways.  And I don't even think it's about giving him a 2nd season given the investment, it's that there isn't a logical way we can replace him after this season with a long term option.

If we had our 1st rounder, I'm taking a new QB and shipping Bryce out for literally anything anyone would offer up for him, but we don't and you're not going to get a sure thing at QB in the 2nd or 3rd round, even in a good QB class.  

Honestly, if we had a better team, I'd be fine just benching him and going with Dalton or a FA at QB next year, but starting Bryce is our worst option, which in turn means it's our best chance at being in position to draft his replacement in 2025 by starting him and losing.

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