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18 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Dan Morgan's only interview question to draft prospects:  "On a scale of 1 to 10, how much of a Dawg are you?" 

That's what's going to be different from last year lol 

You mean as opposed to looking at their RAS and combine results and determining by that? 

 

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19 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I know McConkey has been generating a lot of hype at the senior bowl despite his lack of production in college, but he can separate.  I think the other guys are more athletic and with a higher ceiling. I just don't know if McConkey is that much different from what we have in Adam Theilan. My hope is that he is the next Cooper Kupp! 

I think he is going to test to be more athletic than you think but we will see.

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12 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I want to make the #33 pick even more complicated than this....

After round 1, lotta teams try to trade up and the phones will ring between day 1 and day 2.  Since we have mulitple needs, I wpuld not be too surprised to see us trade down to about #40 and add a third rounder.  Heard it here first!   The WR group is really good, and if a no brainer first rounder does not drop to #33, I would consider a trade back--not too far---8-10 spots.

If the WR class is as good as many say. Take the 1st next year and a 3rd this year.  IMO we need to get more top tier talent and 2025 gives us a chance to move around with 2 or more 1st round picks. 

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Ok, as far as TEs is concerned, i know Bowers isn't happening.

There is one i think we could grab in the 3rd that i think would be really good. Ja'Tavion Sanders. he's got it all. would instantly be the best TE we've had since Olsen (not that the bar is set very high post-greg). 

realistic WR options that i think would help out a lot who might be available (a couple depending on whether 5,6,or7 go in the first round):

Keon Coleman/Troy Frankin/Adonai Mitchell (1-2 of these guys might still be there at 33)

Ladd McConkey (not a huge guy, but he's one of these type WRs that becomes a QBs best friend. key for him great hands, great routes, gets separation)

Xavier Legette - might be gone earlier because he's a big and fast guy with decent hands who fights for the ball. the issue is he has to fight for that ball a lot. read into that...doesn't create a whole lot of separation. still, wouldn't hate it. Super athletic guy, esp. for his size.

Xavier Worthy -  really fast stick with good hands. only real downside is he's a stick. probably the guy you want for deep balls. if we don't use the deep ball that often, though, probably another direction we could go.

Ja'Lynn Polk - good prospect with tons of potential. needs a good bit of coaching up and might be another who will fight hard for the ball, but won't get a lot of separation. 

Devontez Walker - could be a great do it all kind of WR. lots to like with him. just needs some refining in a couple areas. Definitely one to keep an eye on, especially being a local kid. 

Brenden Rice - son of the GOAT. good size and very athletic. smart. fights for the ball and every yard. does it all well. lots to love. not a lot at all to hate on. 

Roman Wilson - tiny but uber-athletic. will end up in fights for the ball...which could be a problem because he's tiny. he's a highlight reel guy. fun to watch, but likely won't be the most reliable target out there. day 2 guy for sure.

Malik Washington - another small guy, but good bit of potential. fun to watch. in some ways he's like McConkey... quick, good reliable hands, and can get separation. limited route tree, but what he runs he runs well.

Luke McCaffrey - think CMC except just a WR. fights for the ball. fights for the extra yards. fights for the end zone. tough and athletic and a reliable target.

 

this class is very nice and i could go on all day, but these guys are the ones that interested me the most. i'd be happy if we could get a couple of these guys. 

i think guys i've been most looking at aren't necessarily the big guys, though that would be nice. it's guys who can get open with some separation and can be counted on to catch the ball. i don't care how big they are. just be open and reliable. 

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7 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Ok, as far as TEs is concerned, i know Bowers isn't happening.

There is one i think we could grab in the 3rd that i think would be really good. Ja'Tavion Sanders. he's got it all. would instantly be the best TE we've had since Olsen (not that the bar is set very high post-greg). 

realistic WR options that i think would help out a lot who might be available (a couple depending on whether 5,6,or7 go in the first round):

Keon Coleman/Troy Frankin/Adonai Mitchell (1-2 of these guys might still be there at 33)

Ladd McConkey (not a huge guy, but he's one of these type WRs that becomes a QBs best friend. key for him great hands, great routes, gets separation)

Xavier Legette - might be gone earlier because he's a big and fast guy with decent hands who fights for the ball. the issue is he has to fight for that ball a lot. read into that...doesn't create a whole lot of separation. still, wouldn't hate it. Super athletic guy, esp. for his size.

Xavier Worthy -  really fast stick with good hands. only real downside is he's a stick. probably the guy you want for deep balls. if we don't use the deep ball that often, though, probably another direction we could go.

Ja'Lynn Polk - good prospect with tons of potential. needs a good bit of coaching up and might be another who will fight hard for the ball, but won't get a lot of separation. 

Devontez Walker - could be a great do it all kind of WR. lots to like with him. just needs some refining in a couple areas. Definitely one to keep an eye on, especially being a local kid. 

Brenden Rice - son of the GOAT. good size and very athletic. smart. fights for the ball and every yard. does it all well. lots to love. not a lot at all to hate on. 

Roman Wilson - tiny but uber-athletic. will end up in fights for the ball...which could be a problem because he's tiny. he's a highlight reel guy. fun to watch, but likely won't be the most reliable target out there. day 2 guy for sure.

Malik Washington - another small guy, but good bit of potential. fun to watch. in some ways he's like McConkey... quick, good reliable hands, and can get separation. limited route tree, but what he runs he runs well.

Luke McCaffrey - think CMC except just a WR. fights for the ball. fights for the extra yards. fights for the end zone. tough and athletic and a reliable target.

 

this class is very nice and i could go on all day, but these guys are the ones that interested me the most. i'd be happy if we could get a couple of these guys. 

i think guys i've been most looking at aren't necessarily the big guys, though that would be nice. it's guys who can get open with some separation and can be counted on to catch the ball. i don't care how big they are. just be open and reliable. 

I thinking we could get OL in the 2nd, Tez 3rd, and Luke/Rice in the late rounds.  Grab a FA WR like Hollywood or if Jennings is available and that will give Canales something to work with.  

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43 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Devontez Walker - could be a great do it all kind of WR. lots to like with him. just needs some refining in a couple areas. Definitely one to keep an eye on, especially being a local kid. 

Yeah, I think this guy is going to be a STUD.  Had he had a full season with UNC his stock would have been much higher. 

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1 hour ago, rayzor said:

Ok, as far as TEs is concerned, i know Bowers isn't happening.

There is one i think we could grab in the 3rd that i think would be really good. Ja'Tavion Sanders. he's got it all. would instantly be the best TE we've had since Olsen (not that the bar is set very high post-greg). 

realistic WR options that i think would help out a lot who might be available (a couple depending on whether 5,6,or7 go in the first round):

Keon Coleman/Troy Frankin/Adonai Mitchell (1-2 of these guys might still be there at 33)

Ladd McConkey (not a huge guy, but he's one of these type WRs that becomes a QBs best friend. key for him great hands, great routes, gets separation)

Xavier Legette - might be gone earlier because he's a big and fast guy with decent hands who fights for the ball. the issue is he has to fight for that ball a lot. read into that...doesn't create a whole lot of separation. still, wouldn't hate it. Super athletic guy, esp. for his size.

Xavier Worthy -  really fast stick with good hands. only real downside is he's a stick. probably the guy you want for deep balls. if we don't use the deep ball that often, though, probably another direction we could go.

Ja'Lynn Polk - good prospect with tons of potential. needs a good bit of coaching up and might be another who will fight hard for the ball, but won't get a lot of separation. 

Devontez Walker - could be a great do it all kind of WR. lots to like with him. just needs some refining in a couple areas. Definitely one to keep an eye on, especially being a local kid. 

Brenden Rice - son of the GOAT. good size and very athletic. smart. fights for the ball and every yard. does it all well. lots to love. not a lot at all to hate on. 

Roman Wilson - tiny but uber-athletic. will end up in fights for the ball...which could be a problem because he's tiny. he's a highlight reel guy. fun to watch, but likely won't be the most reliable target out there. day 2 guy for sure.

Malik Washington - another small guy, but good bit of potential. fun to watch. in some ways he's like McConkey... quick, good reliable hands, and can get separation. limited route tree, but what he runs he runs well.

Luke McCaffrey - think CMC except just a WR. fights for the ball. fights for the extra yards. fights for the end zone. tough and athletic and a reliable target.

 

this class is very nice and i could go on all day, but these guys are the ones that interested me the most. i'd be happy if we could get a couple of these guys. 

i think guys i've been most looking at aren't necessarily the big guys, though that would be nice. it's guys who can get open with some separation and can be counted on to catch the ball. i don't care how big they are. just be open and reliable. 

I think Legette is going to fall a lot further than people think and I really hope we dont draft him.

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44 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I think Legette is going to fall a lot further than people think and I really hope we dont draft him.

he's kind of all over the place as far as projections. big and athletic is the draw. people love the idea of a WR like that. he could do alright, but he could also be a headache. 

you draft a WR here and you're going to want him to be a super reliable target. big game target would be nice, but i'd rather have big time reliable. 

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