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Ian Thomas getting Restructure

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

is he taking a cut or renegotiating the terms moving money to the back end? 

Who cares. This same thing was mentioned before. Oh, he’s taking a little less. That wasn’t true before because we paid him more new money that we could have saved.

Seeing this pisses me off. We gave him a big deal he didn’t deserve and because of restructuring we are giving him every cent when he deserved nothing and somehow it helped us ignore the strong TE draft class last year because we had Hurst, Thomas and Tremble, murderer’s row of NFL TEs.

Somewhere in New Orleans, Tampa and Atlanta, three DCs just updated their notes to not cover TEs when they play Carolina.

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24 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Lol, this is why that dawg poo means nothing to me unless we actually start winning. Plenty of people ran with it in here but it’s no more than a slogan like the rest. Ian Thomas has never shown any type of toughness.

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7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

We'd take that amount in dead cap if we cut him. Call it a wash and with one less hole to fill.

It’s not a wash. Dead cap is dead cap. It’s pro-rated bonuses that already happened but haven’t hit the cap. The salary is “new money”, which means we probably spread the dead cap into 2025. So instead of just eating the dead cap, we will end up using another $2M (probably more, there has to be another restructure bonus to spread the cap). Last time we did this, Ian got his $1.6M that “he lost/we saved” in a restructure bonus. He didn’t really lose anything last time, we just pushed more into 2023/2024. Now we are likely pushing to void years in 2025+.

We would have save more total last time by just cutting him but we would have had to put all the dead cap into 2023 and well, we did have a better roster than 2022 so better off signing Hurst with the cap we saved in 2023 because we are this close to contending.

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5 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

It’s not a wash. Dead cap is dead cap. It’s pro-rated bonuses that already happened but haven’t hit the cap. The salary is “new money”, which means we probably spread the dead cap into 2025. So instead of just eating the dead cap, we will end up using another $2M (probably more, there has to be another restructure bonus to spread the cap). Last time we did this, Ian got his $2.4M that “he lost/we saved” in a restructure bonus. He didn’t really lose anything last time, we just pushed more into 2023/2024. Now we are likely pushing to void years in 2025+.

Have you seen the terms. Until then why keep going with speculation. With a new GM and new cap manager, bringing up the past may not portend the furure. I read a pay cut but no mention yet of any signing bonus to kick money down the road. And this is all part of tagging Burns and still having cap room to acquire free agents. Plenty of time to bitch when the facts unfold.

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