Kiper's latest mock has us trading 33

[Ricky Prickles]

9 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I have a feeling there is going to be a really good payer there at #33 that we will not pass up on 

This exactly. No sense in moving down for some 2025 draft pic when we need help in that spot at that pick right now. We will live to regret that move if we trade down I have a bad feeling.

[JawnyBlaze]

I’d definitely take that trade, especially if we still get Ladd at 39. 

[JawnyBlaze]

Why all this “has to be picks this year” sentiment? Giants will surely be picking high again next year, so that second will still be high. Assuming around the same as the 39 they gave us this year. We still get a pick in the second this year from them (47). It’s not like we’d have to wait long for our next pick (39).

We’re not in win now mode, two seconds will help more than one second, even if it is six picks earlier than our first second this year would be after the trade. I’d rather have their second next year than their third this year, it’s a better pick and will assumably turn into a better player. That’s what we need long term, not more bodies this year.

We may also need that second rd pick next year to trade up high enough for our new QB next year if we’re still bad but not quite as bad as this year. If we’re picking at 7 or 8 next year, we’d probably need to trade up for a QB. That’s far more important than whatever we could get in the third this year. 

[JawnyBlaze]

Another way to look at it (not entirely accurate, but in effect) we will have traded Burns and dropped six spots in the second for three extra second round picks. That’s a win in my book, better than just a second for Burns. 

[Jon Snow]

35 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Why all this “has to be picks this year” sentiment? Giants will surely be picking high again next year, so that second will still be high. Assuming around the same as the 39 they gave us this year. We still get a pick in the second this year from them (47). It’s not like we’d have to wait long for our next pick (39).

We’re not in win now mode, two seconds will help more than one second, even if it is six picks earlier than our first second this year would be after the trade. I’d rather have their second next year than their third this year, it’s a better pick and will assumably turn into a better player. That’s what we need long term, not more bodies this year.

We may also need that second rd pick next year to trade up high enough for our new QB next year if we’re still bad but not quite as bad as this year. If we’re picking at 7 or 8 next year, we’d probably need to trade up for a QB. That’s far more important than whatever we could get in the third this year. 

No more trading up for a qb. fug that noise. That's what got us in this mess to begin with. 

[NorthTryon]

13 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Kiper couldn't pick a win in a 1 horse race. 

And with all the misses and way off the map predictions every year, he is met with the accountability of a booger eating 2nd grader. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, NorthTryon said:

And with all the misses and way off the map predictions every year, he is met with the accountability of a booger eating 2nd grader. 

I cannot understand why anyone listens to that goober. He hasn't ever got a single pick right. He's a bum.

[Khyber53]

2 hours ago, RumHam said:

tank mode confirmed

It's not tanking if you couldn't win a game if you tried. That was us last season.

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

21 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I cannot understand why anyone listens to that goober. He hasn't ever got a single pick right. He's a bum.

They watch just to see if a random ember from a cigar will set that excessively gelled hair on fire. 

[mrcompletely11]

32 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I cannot understand why anyone listens to that goober. He hasn't ever got a single pick right. He's a bum.

You are insane.  He nailed the clausen pick

[mrcompletely11]

33 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

It's not tanking if you couldn't win a game if you tried. That was us last season.

 

We did the reverse tank

[JawnyBlaze]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

No more trading up for a qb. fug that noise. That's what got us in this mess to begin with. 

Sometimes you have to. You just gotta pick the right one. The trade up to 1 wasn’t the problem imo. If we had taken Stroud we’d be sitting pretty. 

[Jon Snow]

50 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You are insane.  He nailed the clausen pick

He was supposed to go away after missing that call. 

[Jon Snow]

20 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Sometimes you have to. You just gotta pick the right one. The trade up to 1 wasn’t the problem imo. If we had taken Stroud we’d be sitting pretty. 

It was still a bad trade. We gave up our entire offense prior to doing so. You don't do that if you're going all in for a qb. It was and still is a dumb idea.