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Bryce Young for Trevor Lawrence

HardcoreHokie

By HardcoreHokie,
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CPcavedweller Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I have no desire to watch him MAYBE ascend to league averagish for top of the positon pay.

That's nuts. Only a blind fool or a Clemson homer would want that.

I am an App State homer, and I would like for us to draft Joey Aguilar in the 4th or 5th round next year.

I don't care for Clemson, I don't watch Clemson, and yeah, I just don't care. Lawrence has the ability to be a Top 8 QB, if not better. The Jaguars suck. Their coaching staff and executive suites staff suck. The offensive line is horrendous and the receiver corp is iffy, at best.

Their best offensive player outside of Lawrence is Etienne and, well, running backs don't very much matter do they?

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2 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

He's hardly a "reclamation". He's what, 25? QB's play now until they are 40. He may as well be a rookie in all but cash.

Now Deshaun Watson, that's a reclamation. 

Reclamation... Baker. What's his age? edit: 29. I guess Lawrence is a year or two younger than I thought but it is really about former highly draft player that disappointed and lost the big opportunities.

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Just now, HardcoreHokie said:

I posted this as a joke and some folks apparently think it’s realistic. Lol.

It's a thought experiment, and it's worth it. If you could trade Bryce for Lawrence, straight up, would you do it? The answer is unevuivocally yes.

One is a lost cause who will never make it, the other is someone that actually led his team to a playoff win and very nearly beat the Chiefs the next week. So yes, give me Lawrence in your scenario. 

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      Lol. The Texans are literally one of Bryce's six career NFL wins. WTF are you talking about?
    • kungfoodude
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      By kungfoodude · Posted

      Yeah, I mean it is a statistical fact and also part of literally a player evaluation. Winston has literally lost dozens of games in his NFL career due to crippling TO's. It's just who he is. Look, it's fun when those insane throws work and he is leading you back from some crazy deficit. But those success are rare. It's why his career GWD count is so low. He's fun but he is fundamentally built to lose games.  If you are talking about a backup QB, you are literally already losing in the first place. That's how you see a backup QB and that's overwhelmingly what they tend to do. Rookie QB's almost always benefit from veteran QB's. Same as literally any other position in the NFL. Why do you think that you so often hear that from the playera themselves? As for Bryce NEEDING one, no he sure as poo shouldn't this late in the game. But he also shouldn't have needed this fuging long to get his fuging footwork straightened out either. Yet here we are.
    • frankw
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      Comfortability is the primary reason. They don't want to hurt Bryce's confidence. But I say if his confidence is that fragile that healthy competition which makes everyone better is enough for them to keep making Andy Dalton rich then Bryce was never going to be the guy anyway. Give me the QB who sees the competition amongst his peers and uses it to take it to the next level. Instead we get the guy who comes out looking like a deer in the headlights against the Texans after we've done everything possible to appease him. Definition of complacency.
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