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Mike Kaye: Panthers might start Bryce Young final 7 games


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1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You think Bryce is a backup?

 

His play said he doesn't even belong on a NFL field. 

This right here. Bryce seems like a nice dude and is one hell of a sideline cheerleader and supportive backup QB but unfortunately I don't think his body of work in the NFL supports him even being a backup. If you can't make all the throws you can't be a backup I guess is my train of thought. To be a backup NFL QB you still must be an amazing QB compared to the rest of the world and I'm convinced some armchair QB's here could potentially stand in the pocket and deliver with a little more confidence and swag as sad as that sounds. I'm not trying to be mean or insult him but it's just a fact of reality. Case in point, I'm dropping about 6-7 inches of beef on the wife. She is okay with it but no porn producer is calling me anytime soon since I'm not packing a foot of dick but at least I'm being a realist and know this as well as come to terms with it.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This fuger stchik is already old after 6 games

He can say whatever he wants as long as he turns this show around and brings success to the team in my opinion. Not giving up on this coach for at least 2 seasons and three if we see improvement next season. We keep firing these guys and nobody worth a poo is going to want to come here ever.

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2 minutes ago, Ricky Prickles said:

He can say whatever he wants as long as he turns this show around and brings success to the team in my opinion. Not giving up on this coach for at least 2 seasons and three if we see improvement next season. We keep firing these guys and nobody worth a poo is going to want to come here ever.

Yeah. And the coaching and FO turnover is a huge setback due to player fits and all that. 

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12 minutes ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Very true. We need to find some consistency in leadership form once and keep them in place together. I'm saying that with hope we have the right guys now and they are best for us

I feel like he is the best shot we've had. I mean, benching Bryce is Alpha even if he sounds like a metro when he talks. 

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There really isn’t much to lose here.  The players on this team aren’t stupid they understand the situation.  He has been a good teammate so I don’t see any mutiny happening.  If he does some good things it could help his stock which is low anyway.

I think it’s immature as hell to hate on a 23 guy in his second season to the level I’ve seen.  This fan base is toxic even if I totally understand why

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13 minutes ago, Shocker said:

There really isn’t much to lose here.  The players on this team aren’t stupid they understand the situation.  He has been a good teammate so I don’t see any mutiny happening.  If he does some good things it could help his stock which is low anyway.

I think it’s immature as hell to hate on a 23 guy in his second season to the level I’ve seen.  This fan base is toxic even if I totally understand why

Here is how it works.

 This word: S H 1 T.

He is the SH. No SH no IT.

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:Send his ass out there and tell him to cut it lose. Make Tepper eat that humiliation until he cannot take it anymore. He owns this.

Good point.  Force him to throw the entire route tree.  Call the plays that require him to air it out deep, interceptions be damned.  No more hiding his deficiencies.  

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Just now, bythenbrs said:

Good point.  Force him to throw the entire route tree.  Call the plays that require him to air it out deep, interceptions be damned.  No more hiding his deficiencies.  

If he would actually run the script, that could be entertaining. He'd probably just check it down or bail and sail like usual. 

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