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Mortensen: Panthers interested in Umenyiora

Mr. Scot

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Considering the level of talent at WR that has been moved this offseason and what they were traded for, no way I'd give up a 3rd for Osi. 4th or 5th, I'd be all over it, and I wouldn't think the Giants would expect much more than that. That would be an awesome pick-up...

Although I think Charles Johnson getting increased or full-time reps is gonna surprise some people.

This, so you're telling me that with our need at WR we sat around and watched Boldin go for a 3rd and a 4th and Marshall go for a 2nd this year and 2nd next year and now we're gonna trade a 3rd for Osi?

There are some pretty clear signs that Osi may have lost his mojo (funny what happens when you no longer have a future HOF'er on the other end of the line) I can't imagine giving up anything higher than a 4th round pick for him.

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This, so you're telling me that with our need at WR we sat around and watched Boldin go for a 3rd and a 4th and Marshall go for a 2nd this year and 2nd next year and now we're gonna trade a 3rd for Osi?

There are some pretty clear signs that Osi may have lost his mojo (funny what happens when you no longer have a future HOF'er on the other end of the line) I can't imagine giving up anything higher than a 4th round pick for him.

Like Scottie Pippen without Micheal Jordan. Osi to me is washed up. The Giants didn't even have him in a rotation and we want to trade for him? I think Chris Mortensen threw our name into this.

I do find it hard to believe we would not trade for a WR but trade for a overrated DE like Osi.

Go Panthers

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I think what you all are missing is this: The Panthers need help at DE, and Osi, at one point, was a pretty good one. If the price is right (4th or later), I think you almost have to take that deal. He provides another vet on the DL, which is something that all you jokers have been wanting (see all the Grant, Howard, Brown, any other DE that was released threads).

The difference between acquiring Osi and acquiring one of the big name WRs is pretty apparent if you just look at the situation. Osi is no longer in a position to demand a ton of money. All the traded receivers, save Ginn, are getting buttloads of money. See the difference.

So, here you have the Panthers, a team looking to reel back spending a little bit, presented with the possibility of acquiring a DE that can perform at a high level for a mid-round draft pick and not a crap ton of money. Sounds like a good deal if the pick is right.

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I think what you all are missing is this: The Panthers need help at DE, and Osi, at one point, was a pretty good one. If the price is right (4th or later), I think you almost have to take that deal. He provides another vet on the DL, which is something that all you jokers have been wanting (see all the Grant, Howard, Brown, any other DE that was released threads).

The difference between acquiring Osi and acquiring one of the big name WRs is pretty apparent if you just look at the situation. Osi is no longer in a position to demand a ton of money. All the traded receivers, save Ginn, are getting buttloads of money. See the difference.

So, here you have the Panthers, a team looking to reel back spending a little bit, presented with the possibility of acquiring a DE that can perform at a high level for a mid-round draft pick and not a crap ton of money. Sounds like a good deal if the pick is right.

I do see your point to an extent. You don't know what Osi will want $$$ wise. You and I agree he is low dollar but does he and his agent feel he is low dollar? I can bet you Giant Fans will think he is worthy of a 1st or 2nd.

I don't agree we necessarily need another DE. Johnson, Brayton, Brown, Taylor and Moore will do well. Adding Osi other than being a vet really doesn't guarantee that our DE's will be any better than what we have.

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I do see your point to an extent. You don't know what Osi will want $$$ wise. You and I agree he is low dollar but does he and his agent feel he is low dollar? I can bet you Giant Fans will think he is worthy of a 1st or 2nd.

I don't agree we necessarily need another DE. Johnson, Brayton, Brown, Taylor and Moore will do well. Adding Osi other than being a vet really doesn't guarantee that our DE's will be any better than what we have.

Osi has performed at a level much higher than any of those guys except Brayton. Osi's best performances have even been much better than Tyler's. Johnson and Brown are the only two younger that have shown anything, and those have just been flashes. To insinuate that Osi doesn't increase the overall talent of that group is unreasonable.

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What has he done since Strahan retired. Not much!!! You could make an argument that he benefitted from the HOF DE. Why do you feel that is so unreasonable. His performance is SOOOO Bad that he wasn't even starting. Barely playing. I feel if he were to come here he won't bring anything to the table that we don't already have. Sorry you don't agree with me but unreasonable IMO is very reasonable.

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perhaps he just needs a reset in a new scheme. brayton did it, why can't osi? and if you think about michael strahan... 6'5" 255 lbs... and then think about who'll be playing opposite of osi (at least on half the downs) should he come here... everette brown.. 6'1" 260 lbs. roughly. brown's a high motor, fast off the line kind of guy just like strahan... perhaps Meeks' way of thinking is perhaps if you team these guys up, osi could have the same type of play that he had when strahan was on the opposite side.

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perhaps he just needs a reset in a new scheme. brayton did it, why can't osi? and if you think about michael strahan... 6'5" 255 lbs... and then think about who'll be playing opposite of osi (at least on half the downs) should he come here... everette brown.. 6'1" 260 lbs. roughly. brown's a high motor, fast off the line kind of guy just like strahan... perhaps Meeks' way of thinking is perhaps if you team these guys up, osi could have the same type of play that he had when strahan was on the opposite side.

OK OK OK... You make a good point. I have always agreed with bring in players that need a fresh start. Brown and Osi could benefit from each other.

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