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1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

The number 1 job of a QB is to not lose the game  by making mistakes while feeding his players and scoring more points than the other guys by any means necessary. Bryce did what he needed to in order to win. He did his job. Was he great? No. But this team is going to run a lot and pass when necessary. No matter who is at quarterback.

He missed an easy throw to Coker to ice the game. That by definition is a mistake.  

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2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

His top 3 options in the passing game are rookies. Gotta learn to live in facts. As a young player himself playing with other young players I’m not sure what you expect from him. 
He made plays when he needed to and managed the game. That’s all you want from your young QB. 

 

In a vacuum, 31 other teams fans would be happy with basically a road win over a good defense down 2 starting lineman (technically on 3rd Center) and starting 3 rookies at the skill positions (including an UDFA).

Normal Panthers fans are overwhelming all happy FWIW.

Except on this board... I have been around off and on since this was Carolina Growl a million years ago.

There have always been complaints, some legit, some not. Back rationality usually won out for the most part.

Nothing compares to the unremitting negativity (and hell there have been so many times where it's warranted), but even in the rare times when we should be happy as a fanbase, this place wants to wallow in it...

Life is too short... 

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He finished the game with the lowest YPA in the entire national football league and had 126 yards while once again our run game carried the offense.

When we face better teams with real offenses we are toast.

Yes wins are rare and it's good to get a win but multiple things can be true at once and acknowledging all of this isn't being miserable or negative unless all some people seek is an echo chamber. And if you're seeking an echo chamber for the franchise with the worst record in pro sports well who is really the one with the issue anyway then?

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6 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

In a vacuum, 31 other teams fans would be happy with basically a road win over a good defense down 2 starting lineman (technically on 3rd Center) and starting 3 rookies at the skill positions (including an UDFA).

Normal Panthers fans are overwhelming all happy FWIW.

Except on this board... I have been around off and on since this was Carolina Growl a million years ago.

There have always been complaints, some legit, some not. Back rationality usually won out for the most part.

Nothing compares to the unremitting negativity (and hell there have been so many times where it's warranted), but even in the rare times when we should be happy as a fanbase, this place wants to wallow in it...

Life is too short... 

We are not in a vacuum.  Our 2nd year qb who we gave up the farm for just threw for 30 yards in the 2nd half.   32 team fanbases would be going ballistic if that happened to them.  

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Just now, frankw said:

He finished the game with the lowest YPA in the entire national football league and had 126 yards while once again our run game carried the offense.

When we face better teams with real offenses we are toast.

Yes wins are rare and it's good to get a win but multiple things can be true at once and acknowledging all of this isn't being miserable or negative unless all some people seek is an echo chamber. And if you're seeking an echo chamber for the franchise with the worst record in pro sports well who is really the one with the issue anyway then?

I assure you I'm not looking for an echo chamber.

You expect your QB to make that throw to Coker. But that was the only really bad play by Bryce IMHO.

Again, we were down 2 lineman and are committed to starting 3 rookies, and we're against statistically a very good defense.

Bryce played an efficient game. He got the win.

No other team fans in the league is having a bitch fest after a win given those circumstances.

Bryce should have had 2 TDs. He didn't play lights out, but he absolutely didnt play bad... I don't know what sport people are watching here.

Get rid of him after the season. No one is fighting anyone on that.

But Jesus Christ, we won the game with what any other team in the league would consider a skeleton crew from a talent perspective on both offense and defense.

 

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We are not in a vacuum.  Our 2nd year qb who we gave up the farm for just threw for 30 yards in the 2nd half.   32 team fanbases would be going ballistic if that happened to them.  

That is simply not true. Only people with an agenda are bitching about this win.

Enjoy this win- trade him in the offseason if you want.

I don't know of a single person who's actually coached football that would be upset with Bryce's game given all the circumstances.

Aaron Rodgers has played worse with elite talent across the board this season and people are bitching less than a 2nd year QB playing with 3 rookies.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I think it is absolute nonsense.

And I think it's been proven to be detrimental to this board. it's too much

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1 minute ago, rayzor said:

Wins don't have to be pretty or look like it was in the hands of a team of pro bowl players.

Just make it happen.

I'm happy bc this the the type of game we overwhelmingly lost over the past 7 seasons.

It doesn't have to be anything more than that.

We are still a bottom dwelling team, but we are fighting hard and showing progress.

That is all I think any rational Panthers fan can have with the overall talent level of this team and starting so many rookies and young guys.

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