So what's the plan with Moton?

[Khyber53]

You pay the man and show that we keep our promises to good players. It will go a long way toward building confidence in free agent pick ups.

And don't eff around with the O-line. It is finally working. Let it cement and build around that.

[raleigh-panther]

The oline, particularly if we stay with an undersized qb, needs to continually be improved and added to in the draft…can never, ever go wrong with that philosophy in the nfl…ever

Pro Football is built from the lines out.

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

You pay the man and show that we keep our promises to good players. It will go a long way toward building confidence in free agent pick ups.

And don't eff around with the O-line. It is finally working. Let it cement and build around that.

We did exactly that 3 years ago.

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We did exactly that 3 years ago.

Good and we should again. We got at least one thing right over the years.

[mrcompletely11]

21 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Good and we should again. We got at least one thing right over the years.

we are not giving a 31 LT a new 4 year deal.  Thats crazy.

[Khyber53]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we are not giving a 31 LT a new 4 year deal.  Thats crazy.

They have all sorts of deals, yanno. Four year, three year, two year... 

[ProcessBlue2]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

They have all sorts of deals, yanno. Four year, three year, two year... 

Moton's next contract will probably be his last so he is going to be looking to get paid.

[csx]

5 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we are not giving a 31 LT a new 4 year deal.  Thats crazy.

It happens all the time and he's not a LT

[MHS831]

OL can play at a high level until they are 34-35 or more.  Moton has been solid.  I extend him.  Shaq?  He has a small frame--playing inside is taking its toll.  He is never going to be above average--the draft is pretty deep at ILB.

[flagfootballcoach28]

This is not even a debate. Extend him as soon as possible. Having a good Oline is the best thing a team can have minus a franchise QB 

[Khyber53]

11 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Moton's next contract will probably be his last so he is going to be looking to get paid.

Yeah, and he both deserves it and has the ability to be worth it. Offensive linemen can still be functional and good well into their 30s.

[mrcompletely11]

9 hours ago, MHS831 said:

OL can play at a high level until they are 34-35 or more.  Moton has been solid.  I extend him.  Shaq?  He has a small frame--playing inside is taking its toll.  He is never going to be above average--the draft is pretty deep at ILB.

Thats really not true.  You have your anomalys for sure but for the most part tackles/lineman in are in their mid 20's. 

Only 35 active offensive linemen are over the age of 30, making up just 11% of players at the position.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Yeah, and he both deserves it and has the ability to be worth it. Offensive linemen can still be functional and good well into their 30s.

I think we need to draft a young OT and C, later in the draft.   I like the Guards we have and I like the depth.  Frankly, I would like to see more of what Mays and BC can do at C--problem is, when Ickey needs a deal in 2 years, we'd have a ton of cap space on the OL--maybe that is when you release a veteran like Moton--depending on his play--but you will have to give up something.  The Fish did not want to lose Hunt, but they had to pay others.  I think the depth should be players on first contracts if you are going to pay the starters big bucks.  Not ideal, but what is?

[Khyber53]

23 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I think we need to draft a young OT and C, later in the draft.   I like the Guards we have and I like the depth.  Frankly, I would like to see more of what Mays and BC can do at C--problem is, when Ickey needs a deal in 2 years, we'd have a ton of cap space on the OL--maybe that is when you release a veteran like Moton--depending on his play--but you will have to give up something.  The Fish did not want to lose Hunt, but they had to pay others.  I think the depth should be players on first contracts if you are going to pay the starters big bucks.  Not ideal, but what is?

Can't argue with you much on this. I've been banging the drum for years now that we need to take a center in the draft, and I have said grab the best one available, first or second rounds. I know, they say you never take them in the first, but the best O-lines in the league generally have a guy they grabbed there or the second. I'm not sold that we can't do better at center than we have now, although things have been better.

And yeah, I see about two more years for Moton after this one and Icky will be looking for money. Icky still needs to improve, though. He's getting better with good guard help and experience, but he's still not in the top half of the LTs starting in the league.