Legette is killing us

[LinvilleGorge]

16 hours ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Ladd McConkey is not having any issues 

He's having injury issues which was the primary concern about him.

I wanted Ladd and still think he should've been the pick.

[csx]

He's having issues buy of all the issues on the team he's not the one killing us.

[NorthTryon]

16 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

McConkey was and is worlds better than XL. He will be a 10+ year WR. Never a #1 but a very good #3 WR that can get open and make plays. I was all in on McConkey over XL. XL is exactly as advertised, a deeply, DEEPLY fundamentally flawed WR but a great athlete. Same as TMJ and Mingo.

XL is way better than TMJ and Mingo. He is open quite a bit, and they struggled to get open. He has the ability to separate and they didn't. He is responding to coaching where as both showed zero growth in their time here. Ladd is having more production in his rookie season with a better team playing the role AT plays for us. XL is a rookie working against the best team's CB every week. There are things he needs to work on and places he needs to grow. He is being pushed and asked to do things he never had to do. He needs to work on concentration and other nuances of WR. Somebody said it before, Moose had issues with drops early and AJ Brown did as well. But like AJ, XL is always open and a physical specimen. Most GMs would bet on those traits early as you can get a Ladd whenever. 

[Joe Bear]

4 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

XL is way better than TMJ and Mingo. He is open quite a bit, and they struggled to get open. He has the ability to separate and they didn't. He is responding to coaching where as both showed zero growth in their time here. Ladd is having more production in his rookie season with a better team playing the role AT plays for us. XL is a rookie working against the best team's CB every week. There are things he needs to work on and places he needs to grow. He is being pushed and asked to do things he never had to do. He needs to work on concentration and other nuances of WR. Somebody said it before, Moose had issues with drops early and AJ Brown did as well. But like AJ, XL is always open and a physical specimen. Most GMs would bet on those traits early as you can get a Ladd whenever. 

Legette is a better athlete than those busts and he's also explosive in the open field, but he's in the same tier because on his best day, he has worse hands than TMJ, Mingo and Dwayne Jarrett.

[kungfoodude]

14 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Like I tried to say there, I was for Ladd back in the day.

But, on to Legette... let's give him some time. It was a bad day for him, and for a few other players. I see something more in him than I saw in TMJ and Mingo. Let's give him time to pan out.

 

TBH, it's been a rough season for Legette. He has very little in the way of pass catching fundamentals. IMO, we need to pivot from him as a realistic #1 guy and find that player in the draft or free agency. It will give him a lower pressure environment to develop. 

[kungfoodude]

12 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

XL is way better than TMJ and Mingo. He is open quite a bit, and they struggled to get open. He has the ability to separate and they didn't. He is responding to coaching where as both showed zero growth in their time here. Ladd is having more production in his rookie season with a better team playing the role AT plays for us. XL is a rookie working against the best team's CB every week. There are things he needs to work on and places he needs to grow. He is being pushed and asked to do things he never had to do. He needs to work on concentration and other nuances of WR. Somebody said it before, Moose had issues with drops early and AJ Brown did as well. But like AJ, XL is always open and a physical specimen. Most GMs would bet on those traits early as you can get a Ladd whenever. 

But Moose nor AJ Brown had the same struggles as XL. He is just not a natural reciever at all. Body catching, mis-timing jumps/dives, lower tier hand eye coordination....it's not just a single thing. He really is a project player. He may pan out but that is not a guy I would be willing to put all my eggs in the basket of as a GM nor HC. You gotta find a real WR in the interim while you figure out if he ever will become one.

[csx]

12 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

Legette is a better athlete than those busts and he's also explosive in the open field, but he's in the same tier because on his best day, he has worse hands than TMJ, Mingo and Dwayne Jarrett.

I think you are greatly exaggerating his hands issue.

[csx]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

But Moose nor AJ Brown had the same struggles as XL. He is just not a natural reciever at all. Body catching, mis-timing jumps/dives, lower tier hand eye coordination....it's not just a single thing. He really is a project player. He may pan out but that is not a guy I would be willing to put all my eggs in the basket of as a GM nor HC. You gotta find a real WR in the interim while you figure out if he ever will become one.

Moose took several years to develop. People questioned him until really about late year 3 or going in to year 4. After 2 seasons he had 1 td and like 725 yds.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, csx said:

Moose took several years to develop. People questioned him until really about late year 3 or going in to year 4. After 2 seasons he had 1 td and like 725 yds.

He also had 10 total starts in those two years. XL has 10 starts this season.

[mav1234]

XL has a lot to like. He's having trouble with catching the ball at times. He's a rookie, tho, so... Hoping that'll improve.

[flagfootballcoach28]

14 hours ago, Johnstonny said:

Didn't Moose drop a lot of passes early in his career? Legette needs to put in work in the offseason and not down on the farm.

 Bro what. Are you really bringing up Moose who played for the Panthers 20 years ago? For every Moose there are 15 Dwayne Jarrett’s, Terrance Marshall’s, Mingos, Kelvin. Benjamin’s etc who never develop. Moose is an outlier, not the norm 

[TD alt]

I still see the same people dogging X. He isn't a bust yet, guys. It would seem to me that you'd want to have some patience. Call him a "project" all you want, but all he really needs to do is get lots of work in on the jugs machine. He's open plenty. 

On an off note, I remember some of you talking poo about Chuba, and some of you told me that Jerry Jeudy was JAG. Funny how a change in atmosphere, faith by the coaches and their willingness to actually play to your strengths and put you into situations to succeed unlocks your potential.

[Jon Snow]

32 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

TBH, it's been a rough season for Legette. He has very little in the way of pass catching fundamentals. IMO, we need to pivot from him as a realistic #1 guy and find that player in the draft or free agency. It will give him a lower pressure environment to develop. 

I would prefer they keep looking in the drat until they hit on one. Don't matter want round just as long as he has great hands and is fast. 

[YungHamm]

On 12/8/2024 at 4:08 PM, Khyber53 said:

Were you one of the guys telling me at draft time that my choice of Ladd McConkey was just stupid?

Ladd also has a much more experienced QB throwing to him. Throwing behind a better line. And with more options. And... and... and...

Ad nauseum.

 

That has nothing to do with catching a football. Bad line, good line, middle school QB throwing the ball,  If you are wide open in the NFL to make a catch from a fairly decent ball, it should be made.