Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

The alternative is you understand Bryce isn't the future AND that this team isn't a QB away from contending anyways.

You trade Bryce for whatever the best offer is for him this offseason then go and sign someone like Jameis or Wentz this offseason to be the starter next year.  Both are going to end up costing your team wins, it's they're not starters anymore, but they both have big arms and aren't afraid to sling the rock.

It will help our young offensive weapons grow as they'll get tons of targets from all sorts of routes, but yes, they're likely to cause us to lose a lot of games, which is fine as it's a QB loaded draft next year, where we then draft a QB with our 1st rounder.

Fans won't like it next year while we're losing, but the reality of the situation is that it's the fastest way to get us back on the right track towards having a contending team again.  If we luck out and get the #1 pick and get Manning, then we could have a really bright future too.

This is the way

[CRA]

6 hours ago, LelouchBritannia said:

Young: top 5 rated qb the past 2 weeks

People in this thread: young is the worst starting qb in the league! Sign Flacco, wentz, (insert random qb who hasn’t been good in 5 years). They are all better than young will ever be!!!! He is the reason we are losing!

Defense: Gives up almost 400 yards in the first half last week and not too far off from being statistically the worst defense in PPG of all time.

Averaging 59% completion, 180 yards  

Claiming that’s top 5 anything the last 2 weeks just ain’t going sell outside of a segment of the huddle 

[bigjohn]

Keep building the roster through the draft. If Bryce is as bad as some of you say, then we can pick up a vet backup at the end of next season who will win more games and put us over the hump.

[CRA]

8 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

You lot would have moved off Josh Allen early so we know how your franchise QB takes go 

Josh Allen was headed to the playoffs at this point in his career

[Jon Snow]

53 minutes ago, CRA said:

Josh Allen was headed to the playoffs at this point in his career

So this team is a playoff team and Young is holding them back?

[mrcompletely11]

8 hours ago, LelouchBritannia said:

Young: top 5 rated qb the past 2 weeks

People in this thread: young is the worst starting qb in the league! Sign Flacco, wentz, (insert random qb who hasn’t been good in 5 years). They are all better than young will ever be!!!! He is the reason we are losing!

Defense: Gives up almost 400 yards in the first half last week and not too far off from being statistically the worst defense in PPG of all time.

you can manipulate stats to tell you whatever you want, the reality is he is not producing.

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

So this team is a playoff team and Young is holding them back?

No.  But what does Josh Allen have to do with Bryce Young at this point??   It just randomly throwing a name into the conversation. 

Josh Allen made the big leap in year 2 and was turning into the one man show playmaker that season.   He had a 72 year old Frank Gore at RB,  John Brown and Cole Beasley as his top 2 WRs. No one believed in him either going into that year.  He wasn't setup for success.  Ignoring defenses.....the two got nothing in common at that point in their careers.  Allen belongs in a Cam Newton convo, not a Bryce Young convo. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Josh Allen was headed to the playoffs at this point in his career

didnt he have like 30tds year 2?

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

No.  But what does Josh Allen have to do with Bryce Young at this point??   It just randomly throwing a name into the conversation. 

Josh Allen made the big leap in year 2 and was turning into the one man show playmaker that season.   He had a 72 year old Frank Gore at RB,  John Brown and Cole Beasley as his top 2 WRs. No one believed in him either going into that year.  He wasn't setup for success.  Ignoring defenses.....the two got nothing in common at that point in their careers.  Allen belongs in a Cam Newton convo, not a Bryce Young convo. 

Yall brought it up. I'm just trying to understand where all the vitriol is coming from.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Yall brought it up. I'm just trying to understand where all the vitriol is coming from.

I responded to someone bringing him up.  I dismissed it. 

I don't have vitriol.  This is just my least favorite part of any season.  Generally it is early.  Time is just off.  It's the Robbie Anderson is why better than DJ Moore part of the season.  Where we take something and just run off the freaking cliff with it. 

Folks essentially are forced into "knocking" Bryce Young because people just getting silly with it IMO.  Bryce has made improvement most of didn't see coming.  Bryce still isn't a very good QB.  

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

didnt he have like 30tds year 2?

yeah, he got nothing to do with Bryce Young at this point.   Allen morphed into Allen year 2.  That was the jump.  Maybe there was a convo last year of them both just not looking NFL caliber in year 1. 

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I responded to someone bringing him up.  I dismissed it. 

I don't have vitriol.  This is just my least favorite part of any season.  Generally it is early.  Time is just off.  It's the Robbie Anderson is why better than DJ Moore part of the season.  Where we take something and just run off the freaking cliff with it. 

Folks essentially are forced into "knocking" Bryce Young because people just getting silly with it IMO.  Bryce has made improvement most of didn't see coming.  Bryce still isn't a very good QB.  

Well unfortunately for those that want him gone it's not happening. He's playing his way into the permanent starter. He will be here for the next 3 years at minimum. Sorry guys.

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Well unfortunately for those that want him gone it's not happening. He's playing his way into the permanent starter. He will be here for the next 3 years at minimum. Sorry guys.

I mean, I conceded earlier this year he is the dude next year.  I'll root for him to keep improving.  But some of the hot takes on him just go too far not to come out against them.  

I'm not lobbying for a new QB.  I want a new D.   Well, I might be open to replacing Dalton with a slightly younger version.  

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I mean, I conceded earlier this year he is the dude next year.  I'll root for him to keep improving.  But some of the hot takes on him just go too far not to come out against them.  

I'm not lobbying for a new QB.  I want a new D.   Well, I might be open to replacing Dalton with a slightly younger version.  

I'd like a QB room revamp. Late round/UDFA/whatever development guy, veteran for camp (younger than Dalton) and go from there. I don't expect them to beat Bryce in camp, but I think a competition in camp will be good for the team.

I don't want us to invest in QBs since we have so many holes. I just would like to see Canales able to pick his QBs (outside Bryce ofc).