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Bryce stats since being benched

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12 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Great points--and yes, if you suggest anything out of balance, you have to hate the people involved.  Most folks are all in or all out; black or white--do not get the concept of gray area and that is where this stuff is found.  I still go after a WR or two and a QB.

While QB is not great at the top of the draft, the middle rounds should be a great place to pick a QB who can be a solid backup and potential starter in time.  So if I say, "We should draft Rourke or Ewers in the third round" I get "he sucks. Not an NFL starter!"  Nope.  Neither was Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner,  Russell Wilson, Brady, Cousins, etc.

I think Milroe in round 2 will be tempting for teams looking to develop a QB because he is a dual threat.

Ewers kept a manning on the bench and Texas became relevant under him.  Injured a lot, but conditioning and more awareness of injury prevention is critical.  Rourke has a lightning quick release and Indiana had their greatest season in decades under him.  Howard (Ohio State) may step up in the playoffs.  I see Carson Beck as a qb with the tools, but he lost his mojo, it seems.  Worth a third rounder and if he never becomes more than a backup, that is good value. Klubnik (Clemson) could be a solid pick in the fourth round or so--he has the potential.  I think these qbs are in an excellent position to develop slowly and learn from NFL coaches, while Sanders and Ward will have to sink or swim.

 

A great portion of those guys will go undrafted. The Panthers should at least get one of them.

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14 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

230 total yards would be mid-pack. How many yards is even theoretically possible when the opponent time of possession is 45 min with 250 rushing yards

Well, Carolina going 3 straight drives accumulating a total of -6 combined yards…..has a lot to with Tampa dominating possession in a half too. 

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6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well, Carolina going 3 straight drives accumulating a total of -6 combined yards…..has a lot to with Tampa dominating possession in a half too. 

You’ll get as many possessions as the other team scores, being no punts or takeaways. Shouldn’t have even run it once unless it was a scramble with blackshear and boone’s farm.

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6 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

You’ll get as many possessions as the other team scores, being no punts or takeaways. Shouldn’t have even run it once unless it was a scramble with blackshear and boone’s farm.

Well, Carolina had 10 drives.   So they put up points on 20% of their opportunities to do so.    Tampa should have been at 88% but showed us mercy at the end by not scoring.  

and some consider this part of the promising Bryce offensive era which is a bit baffling to me. 

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2 minutes ago, Icege said:

While pressure was given up on nearly 70% of the passing attempts. 😮

The QB  and Canales are also part of the equation of how that story unfolds though.   Canales and Bryce often just are outplayed by the opposing sidelines in game after that opening series over and over this year.   

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

Well, Carolina had 10 drives.   So they put up points on 20% of their opportunities to do so.    Tampa should have been at 88% but showed us mercy at the end by not scoring.  

and some consider this part of the promising Bryce offensive era which is a bit baffling to me. 

Bryce probably didn’t run because of his hamstring and XL did his best amputee impersonation yet again. If it weren’t for Thielen beating double teams there might not have been one first down

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6 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Bryce probably didn’t run because of his hamstring and XL did his best amputee impersonation yet again. If it weren’t for Thielen beating double teams there might not have been one first down

I admittedly wasn’t glued to the game.  I know XL catching everything he deserves and then some. 

but I know Bryce throws a lot of bad balls that get almost no talk these days… I remember XL had his guy beat deep and Bryce drastically under threw him as well.  Basically the textbook Canales ball for his O.  

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