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Anyone left who does not believe in Bryce ?


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29 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I was thinking of that option - spying him. But that makes absolutely no sense. You'd lose a guy in coverage. That would be playing into his hands as he prefers throwing in the middle of the field. You'd be better off just delayed blitzing that guy. And if you try to spy him with a LB or DL, then he's not gonna make the play. 

Bryce is a threat on the ground but he's not the kind of threat you want to take guys out of coverage for. 

It'll be interesting if rushers start playing to contain instead of collapse the pocket immediately. If that happens, he'll get a few more seconds (milliseconds anyway lol) for routes to develop too. In that case, more/better offensive (whether developed or acquired) will be critical 

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3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Mothergrabber was trying yo throw shade on him after one series.  And TD went full retard shortly after that.  Fun night

Are you gonna call Coach Cowher a retard too. Even he and others acknowledged that Stroud was only good during the second half. He took off not quite near the beginning of the third quarter. Of course the defense was making it a lot easier for him, but like I said, concentrate on that half of football. That's your best bet, because Stroud did not play great this season, or even good as the season went on. Bryce was certainly better later in the season. Deal with it!

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1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

Lots of people setting themselves up for disappointment in the future.

Might be. I am pleasantly surprised by his turnaround from week 2 to when he got back in the lineup.

I'm ecstatic that he played well enough that we won’t waste draft capital on another QB in this meh class.

We can see how he looks in 2025 to see if DCs will take him more seriously and solve for him with all the video. I’m just glad he looks decent and we can focus on the D that was the worst scoring D in NFL history.

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30 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Are you gonna call Coach Cowher a retard too. Even he and others acknowledged that Stroud was only good during the second half. He took off not quite near the beginning of the third quarter. Of course the defense was making it a lot easier for him, but like I said, concentrate on that half of football. That's your best bet, because Stroud did not play great this season, or even good as the season went on. Bryce was certainly better later in the season. Deal with it!

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Yeah I'll call bullshit on only good in the 2nd half. Go look at the last two drives of the first half footage. Actually watch the game.  Stroud struggled Q1. Turned it around in Q2.  Did you even watch the game?  Kinda sounds like you didn't.

Bryce has had 12 OK games as a starter... Let's hope he continues it... But the reason we need to focus on "the end of the year" is because that's the only time in the last 2 years Bryce has looked looked respectable...

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4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Yeah I'll call bullshit on only good in the 2nd half. Go look at the last two drives of the first half footage. Actually watch the game.  Stroud struggled Q1. Turned it around in Q2.  Did you even watch the game?  Kinda sounds like you didn't.

Bryce has had 12 OK games as a starter... Let's hope he continues it... But the reason we need to focus on "the end of the year" is because that's the only time in the last 2 years Bryce has looked looked respectable...

He already said he didn’t watch.   And this hill he is choosing to die on is so fuging bizarre.  Not one gm.   Not one person in the nfl would choose Bryce over stroud right now.   But he is on a quest to prove that stroud is a pedestrian qb.  It’s fuging nuts all things considered.   

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

He already said he didn’t watch.   And this hill he is choosing to die on is so fuging bizarre.  Not one gm.   Not one person in the nfl would choose Bryce over stroud right now.   But he is on a quest to prove that stroud is a pedestrian qb.  It’s fuging nuts all things considered.   

I didn't realize that... Nobody should comment on a players play within a specific game if they didn't even watch it... I mean Stroud led a 99 yard TD drive in the 2nd quarter lol 

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5 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Yeah I'll call bullshit on only good in the 2nd half. Go look at the last two drives of the first half footage. Actually watch the game.  Stroud struggled Q1. Turned it around in Q2.  Did you even watch the game?  Kinda sounds like you didn't.

Bryce has had 12 OK games as a starter... Let's hope he continues it... But the reason we need to focus on "the end of the year" is because that's the only time in the last 2 years Bryce has looked looked respectable...

He only had one game that was not really respectable after being benched, and that was against Dallas. His career game, so far, was of course the last one.

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6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He already said he didn’t watch.   And this hill he is choosing to die on is so fuging bizarre.  Not one gm.   Not one person in the nfl would choose Bryce over stroud right now.   But he is on a quest to prove that stroud is a pedestrian qb.  It’s fuging nuts all things considered.   

Who didn't watch? WTF are you talking about about? I know you can read and comprehend. Let me say it again for you: Stroud was pedestrian his sophomore year, so much so that Bryce closed the very wide gap on him in reference to QB efficiency. Deal with it!

The move was to wait for the QBs in 2025. That was the move. And that's what a betting man would bet the house on moving forward.

 

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So we're bashing Stroud for winning two playoff games but also patting Bryce Young on the back for playing well late in the season when we have nothing to play for?

Probably would be a good idea to wait and see Bryce Young actually play good football in September and October for once before passing judgement on other young QB's.

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59 minutes ago, frankw said:

So we're bashing Stroud for winning two playoff games but also patting Bryce Young on the back for playing well late in the season when we have nothing to play for?

Probably would be a good idea to wait and see Bryce Young actually play good football in September and October for once before passing judgement on other young QB's.

Who has passed judgment? Y'all are a piece of work. You act like stating the obvious current trend on QB efficiency on two young QBs, including ours, is passing judgement. I know some of you have a difficult time comprehending, while others of you feign it. The story hasn't been written on either Stroud, or, more importantly, Bryce Young. As I am a Panthers fan, I am infinitely more interested in discussing Bryce, and not just in a negative sense whenever the topic of Stroud comes up like some...and I'm not going to apologize for it, and I'm not going to apologize for being tired of the understated shots at Young whenever the two come up, and I'm certainly not going to continue to discuss either of them within the context of the past, and definitely not going to negate the larger context of their current situations when comparing them presently and speculating about the future. Deal with it!

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