Denver NT DJ Jones. Potential FA target

[PanthersNCSU]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I agree, but I have a different spin--Tuttle can free 6.5m as a post June 1 cut--I think the draft has a very nice selection of DTs in the first three rounds....

Yep, works for me. Sucks that he's on the cap until 2028 anyway if I'm reading it right, might as well take the savings now and find a new big body that is respectable. 

[Paper Bagged Fan]

4-3 is so much better

[SmokinwithWilly]

5 hours ago, NAS said:

Agreed you lose your NT and your defense is cooked 

No less so than not having one to start with. 

[csx]

8 hours ago, CRA said:

I wish we would just go back to the 4-3.  3-4 is just so dependent on that NT.   It's great when you got it, but when you don't......it's just rough sledding.  Easier to deal with injuries and fixes in the 4-3

4-3 depends on players too. Players that more teams are after and that shoot up draft boards.

Edited January 21, 2025 by csx

[csx]

1 hour ago, Paper Bagged Fan said:

4-3 is so much better

Why are all the best defenses 3-4?

[Panthero]

[Paper Bagged Fan]

4 hours ago, csx said:

Why are all the best defenses 3-4?

They aren't .. remember the Kuechly / Davis  Willis / Bowman  49ers / Panthers 4-3 D's

[BullCityP]

2 hours ago, Paper Bagged Fan said:

They aren't .. remember the Kuechly / Davis  Willis / Bowman  49ers / Panthers 4-3 D's

I'm pretty sure that Bowman Willis 49ers defense was 3-4 

[flagfootballcoach28]

Just when we start to escape our dead money, a player like Shy Tuttle comes along. 

[Paper Bagged Fan]

15 hours ago, BullCityP said:

I'm pretty sure that Bowman Willis 49ers defense was 3-4 

I think you're right oops

[Davidson Deac II]

If you look at the top defenses in the NFL, it seems that about half run a 34 while the other half run a 43.  I think the key is regardless of your base defense, getting good players for that defense and coaches that know how to run it, is the most important thing.  

[Basbear]

20 hours ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

Just when we start to escape our dead money, a player like Shy Tuttle comes along. 

 

That number is wrong anyway- Shaq, corbert, Dalton, heckerr are going to count for like 15 million. That's not including sanders, AT, Jackson, or few others that could easily be count on this team barely pointing up. 

It wouldn't shock me to 30 million in dead cap this.

No one knows but for like five years in rows, they've had around 50 million dead space each fuccking year!! On these sorry-ass teams with no talent!!! I can not stand it. 

[ForJimmy]

Most defenses are hybrids anymore being ran out of nickel the most honestly. Players like Clowney and Wonnum can line up as DEs or OLB. The NT is important but so is the run stuffing DT in the 4-3. If Star when down for us back in our 4-3 days we would feel it badly as well. Honestly Star helped keep Luke free as well and let him truly dominate. He was crucial to our defense. 

[Panthero]

Tuttle is probably fine as a backup DT, he's really out of place at NT, imo.