Clausen and the Problem of Picking Second-Round Quarterbacks

[scpanther22]

A couple of weeks ago, Jimmy Clausen waited until well into the second round to hear his name called in the N.F.L. draft, by the Carolina Panthers. With a few exceptions, players selected in the second round are expected to be starters sooner rather than later.

The Panthers probably shouldn’t get their hopes up. Unfortunately, when it comes to quarterbacks, the second round hasn’t provided that type of value

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/clausen-and-the-problem-of-picking-second-round-quarterbacks/

[Woodcookedbbq]

Not too worried about Clausen. He ran the same offensive scheme at ND, and I think he'll adapt well. Besides, Matt Moore is our QB now so I'm not worried. Jimmy will have 1-2 years to learn.

[Dpantherman]

id like to see a comparison w/ 2nd round QBs compared to all other rounds.

[Murph]

It's kind of funny that Clausen was a 2nd round pick with a 1st round grade by everybody in the whole world...except for 31 out of 32 general managers.

[pantherfan49]

It's kind of funny that Clausen was a 2nd round pick with a 1st round grade by everybody in the whole world...except for 31 out of 32 general managers.

Regardless of what GMs say, they don't draft BPA but instead for need, especially if a QB is at the top of their draft chart.

[jasonluckydog]

if burger was let go jimmy be a first rounder

[pantherfan49]

Picking QBs is not an exact science.

However, I would throw a few of those players out of the list:

QC, MT, and PW are all speedy type QBs and not PRO style pocket passers. John Beck was also 22 as a freshman and overdrafted because of his maturity in the college game ala Weinke.

That leaves you Brees, Clemens, Kolb, Stanton, Brohm, and Henne as 2nd round prototypical QBs. I will take my odds out of that group.

Besides, Clausen is going to get to sit his ass on the bench for a few years while MM lights it up.

[Dorian Gray]

So he's saying that if you draft a QB in the second round he might be good, but he might not be? Interesting.

[Cyberjag]

Regardless of what GMs say, they don't draft BPA but instead for need, especially if a QB is at the top of their draft chart.

I kind of disagree with that. I think that they put together a list of who would be the best players for their teams, in order, and select off that. Naturally, if you're loaded at a position you might list players at that position a little lower as a result. And maybe you might not list them at all.

Case in point: The Cowboy's have a good QB, and therefore didn't list The Golden Calf of Bristol at all and had Clausen fairly low. Had he been around in the third when they selected, they probably would have taken him, but he wasn't worth as much to the Cowboys as he was to the Panthers, who had him much further up on their boards.

So I think GMs do draft BPA, but they have wildly different lists.

And on Clausen, he could be great and I sure hope he is, but if he is he'll be an exception rather than a rule. Which, incidentally, is how all our QBs since Collins have been...

[TerriblePizza]

Picking QBs is not an exact science.

However, I would throw a few of those players out of the list:

QC, MT, and PW are all speedy type QBs and not PRO style pocket passers. John Beck was also 22 as a freshman and overdrafted because of his maturity in the college game ala Weinke.

That leaves you Brees, Clemens, Kolb, Stanton, Brohm, and Henne as 2nd round prototypical QBs. I will take my odds out of that group.

Besides, Clausen is going to get to sit his ass on the bench for a few years while MM lights it up.

Who the hell is QC and MT?

EDIT: NVM, I read the article. My bad.

[KatsAzz]

Below is a list all the QB's drafted in the 2nd round for the last 20 years.

1991 - Brett Farve

1991 - Browning Nagle

1992 - Matt Blundin

1992 - Tony Sacca

1995 - Todd Collins

1995 - Kordell Stewart

1996 - Tony Banks

1997 - Jake Plummer

1998 - Charlie Batch

1999 - Shaun King

2001 - Drew Brees

2001 - Quincy Carter

2001 - Marques Tuiasosopo

2006 - Kellen Clemens

2007 - Kevin Kolb

2007 - John Beck

2007 - Drew Stanton

2008 - Brian Brohm

2008 - Chad Henne

2009 - Pat White

2010 - Jimmy Clausen

The 2 best QB's on the list, Farve and Brees, found their success with their 2nd teams, the 3rd Plummer was more successful with his 2nd team.

So far it seems that lightening strikes every 10 years with a great 2nd round QB (Farve in 91, and Brees in 01), so is Clausen a year early, and the next great 2nd round QB will arrive in 2011?

[Jangler]

When Clausen gets his chance, he will be out to prove he should have been drafted in the first. I am not worried about him.

[ChinaPanther]

Clausen's ability is that of a first rounder. Clausen coming out of college was a better pro prospect than Aaron Rogers of the Packers. The question about Roger's when he was drafted was could he make all the NFL throws which is a big reason why he slipped. That isn't an issue with Clausen.

Clausen spent his college career in a pro-style offense which enabled him to learn how to read coverages. Roger's was in the spread offense in college which doesn't translate to the NFL. We've seen what Rogers has done in the NFL which is pretty good based on what he did last year. If Clausen turns out to be a better player than Aaron Rogers I will be a happy camper!

[SOJA]

So he's saying that if you draft a QB in the second round he might be good, but he might not be? Interesting.

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