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Everette Brown: Importance of learning from mistakes

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First of all the Oline person knows where the play is going so he isn't necessarily trying to regain frontal position on a run play for example. He can use his longer bigger arms to tie up the defender and push him to one side or the other. On pass plays it is really about foot position and moving his feet to maintain position. Keep in mind that most players who are 2 inches taller and 15 lbs heavier most of time are stronger as well. Also note that on pass blocking the offensive guy has the much easier job. He can just stand there and adjust to the defender who has to do the work to get to the quarterback. The offensive guy can easily just give ground and move his feet to keep between the defender and quarterback.

The defender is the one who has to use speed or strength to get a step on the offensive guy and try and gain leverage around the edge.

If smaller guys had an advantage in run blocking than why are all our offensive guys so big and tall? Defenders who are smaller have an distinct disadvantage in trying to hold his position against the run. Guys like Brown are easily negated once offensive linemen get their hands on him. Freeney uses the spin move to keep guys off him not to gain leverage. Brown uses it as well.

I'd have to say that size is more important on the offensive line versus the defensive line, but it's definitely an advantage when you have size and you are playing on the defensive side. However, both positions require strength and technique. If the guy is strong enough and knows how to defeat the superior size of the offensive lineman then his size is negated.

In the sense of the two lines (no blitzes - just both lines going at each other), I think defending is harder than attacking, which in this sense means that being part of the O-line is harder than being part of the D-line. Of course, my viewpoint is from that of none of the offensive linemen moving in any particular direction - just matchups against the guy on the other side.

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I'd have to say that size is more important on the offensive line versus the defensive line, but it's definitely an advantage when you have size and you are playing on the defensive side. However, both positions require strength and technique. If the guy is strong enough and knows how to defeat the superior size of the offensive lineman then his size is negated.

In the sense of the two lines (no blitzes - just both lines going at each other), I think defending is harder than attacking, which in this sense means that being part of the O-line is harder than being part of the D-line. Of course, my viewpoint is from that of none of the offensive linemen moving in any particular direction - just matchups against the guy on the other side.

Obviously the best of both worlds is to be big and strong. And as you say technique is the most important factor when all things are equal. Both smaller guys who are quick and larger guys who are strong but not as quick can be effective if they understand their strengths and weaknesses and use good technique to negate their opponent.

Which is harder is a function of what you are trying to do. In run blocking the offensive man has an advantage in that he knows what he wants to do and where the play is going. He also has the advantage of have numbers at the point of attack. Plus it depends of what type of blocking it employed whether it is zone blocking or drive blocking, whether the defender is a 3 technique guy shooting the gap or playing man up and playing 2 gap technique.

The things that make you a good run blocker can be a disadvantage if you don't have good quick feet and struggle to maintain your balance. Yet the offensive guy knows that he doesn't really have to stop the defender just slow him up for a few seconds in order for the QB to get the ball out. Where the offensive man is at a disadvantage is when a team does blitz and they have to slide off their man and pick up the blitzer. I would think the attacker actually has the harder job. He has a very limited time to beat the defender and get to the quarterback. He has to recognize whether it is a run or pass and then react and get to the quarterback all within a 2 or 3 second span. Obviously teams that blitz alot are often at an advantage since they can disguise who is attacking and overload one side of the line or the other. But without any blitzing it would seem that the offense has the advantage and easier job.

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Sorry my wife got home and I didn't get to finish this discussion...bed time and all that. My point wasn't that all smaller players have a blocking advantage, far from it, my argument was that it doesn't necessarily cause a disadvantage. But we seem to agree on a lot of things, I agree with most of your last post anyhow.

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Obviously the best of both worlds is to be big and strong. And as you say technique is the most important factor when all things are equal. Both smaller guys who are quick and larger guys who are strong but not as quick can be effective if they understand their strengths and weaknesses and use good technique to negate their opponent.

Which is harder is a function of what you are trying to do. In run blocking the offensive man has an advantage in that he knows what he wants to do and where the play is going. He also has the advantage of have numbers at the point of attack. Plus it depends of what type of blocking it employed whether it is zone blocking or drive blocking, whether the defender is a 3 technique guy shooting the gap or playing man up and playing 2 gap technique.

The things that make you a good run blocker can be a disadvantage if you don't have good quick feet and struggle to maintain your balance. Yet the offensive guy knows that he doesn't really have to stop the defender just slow him up for a few seconds in order for the QB to get the ball out. Where the offensive man is at a disadvantage is when a team does blitz and they have to slide off their man and pick up the blitzer. I would think the attacker actually has the harder job. He has a very limited time to beat the defender and get to the quarterback. He has to recognize whether it is a run or pass and then react and get to the quarterback all within a 2 or 3 second span. Obviously teams that blitz alot are often at an advantage since they can disguise who is attacking and overload one side of the line or the other. But without any blitzing it would seem that the offense has the advantage and easier job.

How did we end up on this tangent? The original post saying he may be our Trent Cole was referring to Tren't non-stop motor and ability to get pressure. Even though Brown and Cole are different players, Brown does seem to have the motor and should be able to provide pressure on the edge.

We are arguing specifics when the statement was meant to be more general.

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How did we end up on this tangent? The original post saying he may be our Trent Cole was referring to Tren't non-stop motor and ability to get pressure. Even though Brown and Cole are different players, Brown does seem to have the motor and should be able to provide pressure on the edge.

We are arguing specifics when the statement was meant to be more general.

How does any thread go off on a tangent? One person says something, another elaborates, and off we go. It is the offseason.

Lighten up, Francis.:cheers2:

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