Legette. Wrist surgery?

[Icege]

14 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

This smells of Tepper cuckism.

But, by all means, don't let anyone get between you and the penis you so desire.

How in the hell did the topic turn to my dong and your weird obsession with getting cucked?

This is exactly why you morons shouldn't be allowed near the front office.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Icege said:

How in the hell did the topic turn to my dong and your weird obsession with getting cucked?

This is exactly why you morons shouldn't be allowed near the front office.

I don't have any better term for thinking this FO/Ownership is better than internet randos. Stockholm Syndrome?

Does that one fit you better?

[Icege]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't have any better term for thinking this FO/Ownership is better than internet randos. Stockholm Syndrome?

Does that one fit you better?

Or, and don't get ahead of me now, we could just have a rational conversation instead of you being a dismissive twat?

Edited February 22 by Icege

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Icege said:

Or, and don't get ahead of me now, we could just have a rational conversation instead of you being a dismissive twat?

That's fair.

Again, literally the collective Huddle consensus has been leaps and bounds better than the Panthers drafting since at least 2017.

We have had over that timespan one of the worst draft histories in the NFL. That's multiple incompetent fugs, not just one or two.

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's fair.

Again, literally the collective Huddle consensus has been leaps and bounds better than the Panthers drafting since at least 2017.

We have had over that timespan one of the worst draft histories in the NFL. That's multiple incompetent fugs, not just one or two.

and yet he still defends this trainwreck of a franchise

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

and yet he still defends this trainwreck of a franchise

It's literally indefensible how bad it has been. The only real competition is probably the Belichick Pats over that timespan.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's literally indefensible how bad it has been. The only real competition is probably the Belichick Pats over that timespan.

I mean we have receipts we can pull in real time before during and after the draft.  But no Icege thanks this front office has been aces at drafting.

 

I mean trey smith is a perfect example, we were screaming for him at the time but nah we needed a LS more.

Edited February 22 by mrcompletely11

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I mean we have receipts we can pull in real time before during and after the draft.  But no Icege thanks this front office has been aces at drafting.

 

I mean trey smith is a perfect example, we were screaming for him at the time but nah we needed a LS more.

The examples are so many it is pathetic.

These are professionals. There is zero reason laypeople or amateur draftniks should be better than our FO.

Unless you are a Millen-esque GM. Somehow we have had several.

Maybe Mike Mayock is a good recent comp? One good draft out of three and basically just a TV guy.

[Shotgun]

51 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's literally indefensible how bad it has been. The only real competition is probably the Belichick Pats over that timespan.

I'd put the giants in the conversation too. All three teams seem to be run by incompetent idiots.  

[LinvilleGorge]

Look at the worst teams in the league. Pretty much all of them are going to be poor drafters. The draft is by far a team's best opportunity to add talent for good value. Sure, you can find the occasional gem in free agency who excels in a new system better suited to his strengths but for the most part you're going to have to pay market value for veteran talent. If you fail year after year to add talent to your roster with cap friendly deals you're screwed and that's a very tough row to hoe in free agency as Dave Gettleman found out. He was really feeling himself striking gold on the cheap in free agency his first year here then came up with no gold and just a bunch of rocks in subsequent years which is usually what you're buying on the cheap in FA.

[jb2288]

I revisited this thread after a week and it seems it has taken a slight curve off topic lol so do we know if he had the surgery yet? 

[Basbear]

21 hours ago, Icege said:

What did I list that was untrue?

I keep hearing "the good/smart ppl" but uh... who would that be? Hopefully not the same folks that were screaming to ship Bryce off for a scratch off ticket and some jenkem.

And there was a looooooot of them... 

  

Have you not seen the last 6 years of brain drain here? Knowledgeable posters have bailed in favor of other hubs.

Instead of DOGE, you could call it DOPE though. It'd be oddly fitting.

 

I agree many good posters have left for various reasons. It still miss ladypanther, zob did her dirty and a few others during one of his pissed off emotional breakdowns.... But others have came too, bearhands has been uplifting for the whole huddle. 

That said, still 10x better than whatever Panthers have done for the last 6 years. Many of the things you blamed the huddle on, hell I was against them. But Ive had misses too- I liked the trading 2020 method(I still maintain that was a good draft). I was right/wrong about drafting QBs in that wilks, Carrol, saying long before I would not draft any QB before 45 and had Carrol as 1b.  Us fans don't get the psychoanalysis reports on players. 

[Icege]

15 hours ago, Basbear said:

I agree many good posters have left for various reasons. It still miss ladypanther, zob did her dirty and a few others during one of his pissed off emotional breakdowns.... But others have came too, bearhands has been uplifting for the whole huddle. 

That said, still 10x better than whatever Panthers have done for the last 6 years. Many of the things you blamed the huddle on, hell I was against them. But Ive had misses too- I liked the trading 2020 method(I still maintain that was a good draft). I was right/wrong about drafting QBs in that wilks, Carrol, saying long before I would not draft any QB before 45 and had Carrol as 1b.  Us fans don't get the psychoanalysis reports on players. 

Thank you for the good faith back and forth.

Are there some things that users here have rallied against that they proved to be right on? Absolutely. Has the Tepper era been successful? Far from it, but let's be honest: anybody expecting there to not be growing pains just isn't living in reality. An individual with no background in professional sports takes over the team, spends the first year working on the business side of the house, and then pivots to football ops where he makes two back-to-back awful coaching hires. Like... this isn't exactly breaking news to anybody with basic critical thinking skills.

If we look at the hiring decisions though, we don't see the same mistakes being made. We see them being learned from. Tepper went the Jimmy Johnson/Pete Carroll route and went for somebody that had successfully built college programs and thought they'd be able to do it in the NFL. Rhule and his crew though just couldn't get away with their usual plan of recruiting the best athletes to compete in year 3, especially when the league is full of those top guys already (it also didn't help that they basically acted like a glorified frat house according to reports).

The Reich hire was a sprint in the opposite direction. We went from little-to-no NFL experience to SO MUCH NFL EXPERIENCE... but there was also a distinct lack of unity that even the Rhule staff had. Too many cooks started arguing over the recipe and the ingredients, factions formed, and the poo all rolled downhill. Tepper doesn't wait until the middle of year three though to pull the plug, he ripped it out midseason. This is continued evidence of learning on Tepper's behalf.

Now the latest staff... Tepper stepped back and outsourced the hiring (as many fans demanded). Canales was brought in and so far I believe it's fair to say that we've got more hope than we ever had since the takeover. They went with a young offensive mind with prior success in turning two QBs' careers around, let him build his staff with his folks, and allowed them the freedom to make the decisions they needed to make (ie: benching Bryce). For an owner that was excoriated for being too meddlesome, that's a huge shift.

Does understanding the nuance in situations between these different hires mean that I don't think the Teppers have done anything wrong or that I agree with every decision they made? I can't see how anyone can jump to that conclusion unless they're a dipshit that still blames drafting Bryce on Nicole hugging him... I just prefer to try and understand the thought process instead of being focused on why I "knew" otherwise. It makes it that much easier to be prepared for what comes next when we're not making predictions on how we're going to be miserable.

All of that said... as much trust and faith I have in myself, I still wouldn't recommend putting me in that room over Dan Morgan and Brandt Tilis. That'd be insane... but the scary part about that is that it immediately makes me more qualified than most other Huddlers.

I'd be okay with ForJimmy, Mr. Scot, and Bear Hands... but those other spots are gonna be tough to fill.

[raleigh-panther]

20 hours ago, jb2288 said:

I revisited this thread after a week and it seems it has taken a slight curve off topic lol so do we know if he had the surgery yet? 

Agree

id like to know but it seems the Panthers PR is not talking and the press isn’t asking  

i would’ve had him in surgery the day after the season ended 

these lingering injuries don’t get better with time…even if it delays his raccoon hunting 

Edited February 23 by raleigh-panther