Milton Williams

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, Icege said:

The most frustrating part about the folks crying about 3-4 vs 4-3 is that defenses are in nickel primarily... Really shows who doesn't understand what's going on in front of their own eyes when we hear them cry about going back to a 4-3.

That's why versatile players that are good at multiple positions on the line or in the back field are increasingly sought after. Can the player play with his hand in the dirt and stand up on the edge? Can play on the ball and off the ball? What is his speed from sideline to sideline. That is what teams ask. Not whether he's a 4-3 or a 3-4 player. 

[hepcat]

17 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I can't think of any decision he made that was good.  He was horrible.

Signing Frankie Luvu was probably the only thing I can think of. 

[TD alt]

I say, "Here here!"

[ECHornet]

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

No problem.  It really bothers me when I try to research needs by position.  Do I look at DE or OLB?  DE or DT?  etc. I see things through the 4-3 lens as well--I convert 3-4 positions to the role they play in the 4-3.  I think teams are headed to a 4-2-5 anyway--

Silly they don’t establish EDGE as a position. It’s crazy that off ball LBs and EDGE rushers cost the same to franchise tag.  

[poorboysrev]

13 hours ago, ECHornet said:

Why can’t Derrick Brown play DT? 

I don’t think it’s that he can’t I think it’s that him at end in 34 because a 34 NT needs to be probably 330(Haloti ngata) or under tackle in a 43 allows him to be more disruptive to the offenses. Do idea being Milton or a “true” NT will allow Derrick Brown and the passrushers to be their best

[ECHornet]

1 minute ago, poorboysrev said:

I don’t think it’s that he can’t I think it’s that him at end in 34 because a 34 NT needs to be probably 330(Haloti ngata) or under tackle in a 43 allows him to be more disruptive to the offenses. Do idea being Milton or a “true” NT will allow Derrick Brown and the passrushers to be their best

Milton seems like more of a pass rushing threat than Brown imo. 
 

Brown is a monster at 6’5, 320+. I view him as primarily a run stopper and the stats support that. I just don’t understand why we don’t put him at NT and sure up the middle of our DL. 

[flagfootballcoach28]

I’d rather have Osa Odighizuwa from the Cowboys. Similar player who wasn’t carried by the elite Eagles D-line. Probably cheaper. Only 1 year older. 

[Jon Snow]

20 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

I’d rather have Osa Odighizuwa from the Cowboys. Similar player who wasn’t carried by the elite Eagles D-line. Probably cheaper. Only 1 year older. 

I think the Cowboys are going to keep him.

[Icege]

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Yes--the 4-2-5, basically as I understand it. I suppose you could also run a 3-3-5 configuration as well, which is rather rare right now.  We are so thin at DB right now, this scares me. 

Kind of wild too how we're seeing more 3-3-5 after pulling our hair out when Phil Snow was the DC.

Said it in another thread, but it's a really good offseason for the Panthers to have the holes that they do. I think before DB went down that A'Shawn was the DL being pulled off of the field vs. 11 personnel. Get a better player than Tuttle to leave in next to DB and a guy to rotate in for Wonnum (assuming they're going to be leaning on DJ Johnson to back-up Clowney, for better or worse) and the DL looks much improved.

[theinstrumental]

Eff it, we need a really talented player somewhere on this defense. We got rid of CMC, DJ Moore, and Burns. Gotta use all those cap savings somewhere. Might as well grab a playmaking defensive lineman, everyone always needs more of them.

Edited March 4, 2025 by theinstrumental