2021 was a good draft.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, jfra78 said:

I'm hopeful for last years draft....but I'm hopeful every year so...

I tried to be hopeful their rookie season. I saw some good and some bad. The bad was back breaking most of the time.

But mostly what I saw was the FO wasting picks they couldn't afford to waste. They cannot afford a repeat of last years draft. They cannot afford to get cute.

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, SOJA said:

I also will maintain that we will never truly know what kind of GM Fitterer was. For half of his regime he had Matt Rhule with final say and for the other half it seems like david tepper was calling all major shots 

 

Great point.

I agree, by the time Rhule was kicked out- Teddy, Stafford, Darnold, Baker, no telling else. Tepper demanded fittterererererer make that trade up for the top pick for BY. He ruined the plan, but he 100% owns the team. 

2021 draft also netted a 2022 4th via titans too(I think).

 

 

[Joe Bear]

8 minutes ago, SOJA said:

I also will maintain that we will never truly know what kind of GM Fitterer was.

I say he was dogshit.

Keeping things on track, 2021 was a decent-to-good draft. The ones immediately preceding it and every one after it were ass, so that also inflates it a bit.

[Basbear]

Just no matter how you do(within reason), if you get 2 top level starters and 1 top backup/STer. It's a good draft.

 

Anyone that disagrees, pick a team that you hold in high draft regard. And look at the draft history, what I said remains true. There are course changing drafts, were you hit on 6 out of the eight picks and your team changes for the good. Seahawks, saints, rams have had them and the effects last years...

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Just no matter how you do(within reason), if you get 2 top level starters and 1 top backup/STer. It's a good draft.

 

Anyone that disagrees, pick a team that you hold in high draft regard. And look at the draft history, what I said remains true. There are course changing drafts, were you hit on 6 out of the eight picks and your team changes for the good. Seahawks, saints, rams have had them and the effects last years...

Im still waiting for the Panthers to have a draft that changes the team for the good. We've had a few that changes it temporarily but it's few and far between. 

[Basbear]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Im still waiting for the Panthers to have a draft that changes the team for the good. We've had a few that changes it temporarily but it's few and far between. 

They never had one, that just shows how hard they come by. 

This one is close just not the total kockout, but elite talent is there. 

Round (Pick No.)	Name	College	Years with Carolina
1 (11)	LB Dan Morgan	Miami (Fla.)	2001-07
2 (44)	DT Kris Jenkins	Maryland	2001-07
3 (74)	WR Steve Smith	Utah	2001-13
4 (106)	QB Chris Weinke	Florida State	2001-06
5 (143)	S Jarrod Cooper	Kansas State	2001-04
6 (175)	RB Dee Brown	Syracuse	2001-02
7 (211)	C Louis Williams	LSU	2001-02
7 (227)	TE Mike Roberg	Idaho

 

 

Weinke was a OK backup and Cooper was a ST demon. Just need a couple more to at least make the team for years. Still ranked great and best Id say in Panthers history. 

[Basbear]

This is game changing-

New Orleans Saints 2017 Draft Picks:

• Round 1, Pick 11 - Marshon Lattimore, DB, Ohio State
• Round 1, Pick 32 - Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin
• Round 2, Pick 42 - Marcus Williams, DB, Utah
• Round 3, Pick 67 - Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee
• Round 3, Pick 76 - Alex Anzalone, LB, Florida
• Round 3, Pick 103 - Trey Hendrickson, DE, Florida Atlantic
• Round 6, Pick 196 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, DE, Miami

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Basbear said:

They never had one, that just shows how hard they come by. 

This one is close just not the total kockout, but elite talent is there. 

Round (Pick No.)	Name	College	Years with Carolina
1 (11)	LB Dan Morgan	Miami (Fla.)	2001-07
2 (44)	DT Kris Jenkins	Maryland	2001-07
3 (74)	WR Steve Smith	Utah	2001-13
4 (106)	QB Chris Weinke	Florida State	2001-06
5 (143)	S Jarrod Cooper	Kansas State	2001-04
6 (175)	RB Dee Brown	Syracuse	2001-02
7 (211)	C Louis Williams	LSU	2001-02
7 (227)	TE Mike Roberg	Idaho

 

 

Weinke was a OK backup and Cooper was a ST demon. Just need a couple more to at least make the team for years. Still ranked great and best Id say in Panthers history. 

If they could have put together several successive drafts like that we would have had back to back winning seasons already. They need to figure out how to draft better every draft if they ever want to build a winning team.

[Aussie Tank]

I thought Marshall was gonna be a solid WR 

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I thought Marshall was gonna be a solid WR 

We managed to pick the one fraud on the 2019 LSU offense

[Aussie Tank]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

We managed to pick the one fraud on the 2019 LSU offense

Mongs gonna mong 

[Aussie Tank]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

We managed to pick the one fraud on the 2019 LSU offense

CEH was a bumb too take that 3 time Super Bowl winning Chiefs 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Agree. 

[toldozer]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Round 1, pick 8 - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina

Round 2, pick 59 (from CLE) - Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU

Round 3, pick 70 (from PHI) - Brady Christensen, OT, BYU

Round 3, pick 83rd Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame

Round 4: No. 126 (from TEN) - Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State

Round 5: No. 158 (from From NE through HOU) - Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa

Round 5: No. 166 (from TEN) - Keith Taylor, CB, Washington

Round 6, pick 193 - Deonte Brown, OG, Alabama

Round 6, pick 204 (from CHI) - Shi Smith, WR, South Carolina

Round 6, pick 222 - Thomas Fletcher, LS, Alabama

Round 7: No. 232 - Phil Hoskins, DT, Kentucky

 

 

 

Facts are if you get 2 quality starters- Horn and Hubbard.

And one top backup/STer- Tommy Tremble

*Bonus - Brady Christensen

That's a good draft. 

You get four legit NFL players from any draft its a good draft. Plus those four resigned with the team making it a rare feat as well. 

Sorry it does not fit the hate on fittteererererererer narrative...

That's the goal each year. 

 

 

 

It isn't a narrative.  Scott was an abysmal gm and 99% of this board would have done a better job than that candy ass.