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Drafting to solve future problems

Icege

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6 hours ago, Dingo_ate_Babies said:

The good news is most of our impending free agents aren’t back breakers if we lost them. The top tier of them are past their prime or near retirement. The rest can be easily replaced or they wouldn’t be too expensive to bring back.

If we draft well at OLB this year, no one on that list is a must keep outside of maybe Moton. 

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I am fine with the concept of developmental prospects. It's really the execution of it that is the biggest issue.

TBH, given how many roster holes we have, most of our first through third round picks should be competing for starting spots on day 1. 

If that isn't the case....then the pick was a fuging mistake.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I am fine with the concept of developmental prospects. It's really the execution of it that is the biggest issue.

TBH, given how many roster holes we have, most of our first through third round picks should be competing for starting spots on day 1. 

If that isn't the case....then the pick was a fuging mistake.

I'm not sure that will be the case after the 1st round. The talent in this draft just isn't that deep. The 2nd round is mostly backup level players and after the 2nd round you are just hoping for any kind of contributer where you can find them. I seriously doubt they get more than 1 starter out of this draft.

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6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm not sure that will be the case after the 1st round. The talent in this draft just isn't that deep. The 2nd round is mostly backup level players and after the 2nd round you are just hoping for any kind of contributer where you can find them. I seriously doubt they get more than 1 starter out of this draft.

Yes but we have an entire roster of 2nd and 3rd string players. 

We should expect at least 3 starters by the end of the 2025 season, IMO.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yes but we have an entire roster of 2nd and 3rd string players. 

We should expect at least 3 starters by the end of the 2025 season, IMO.

I wouldn't expect it. But if they somehow do get 3 quality starters out of this class I will call that a win.

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