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Tet McMillan: "I don't want to hear nothing"

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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49 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

Truly curious.  Would you take him at 8 and if yes, what other players would have to be off the board to make you take him?  I have wavered back and forth on what players I would take him ahead of at 8.

I would take him at 8 for sure. Guys I would take above him are Hunter, Graham and Johnson.

I don't really believe that Carter is a "sure thing" elite EDGE and I am not sold on the OT prospects enough to take them over McMillian plus it wouldn'tmake a ton of sense for us to take a top 10 OT and then have him ride the pine. Obviously, I care nothing about the QB's.

Hunter, Johnson and Graham are good combinations of elite talents and meet an immediate need.

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Brandt had him significantly slower. If he wanted to shut up people then do it at the combine and not your school who will use this process to lure other players.

Meh. I like him better than the TE people are hung up on. I'm just tired of the BS and this is all more of it. Quit hiding yourself in pro days if you don't want the skepticism to stick around.

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33 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I think he will at worst be a productive NFL receiver, but I don't think there's any chance we draft him.  At this point, if there's not a public love letter about a prospect, they probably aren't even on our board.  I think there's next to a 0% chance that we draft McMillan or Warren.

I agree. We are telegraphing our intentions pretty clearly. I also suspect we will not consider trading down.

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1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Brandt had him significantly slower. If he wanted to shut up people then do it at the combine and not your school who will use this process to lure other players.

Meh. I like him better than the TE people are hung up on. I'm just tired of the BS and this is all more of it. Quit hiding yourself in pro days if you don't want the skepticism to stick around.

Agreed. 

Remember when Calvin Johnson wasn't going to run the 40 at the combine, changed his mind, borrowed some shoes and ran a 4.35?

Now that is how you show people.

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21 minutes ago, Martin said:

So essentially he would have run ~4.65 at the combine. Kind of what was expected if I recall correctly. And good for his size.

People forget that guys like Hopkins and Evans were in the 4.5-4.6 range.

Had he ran a low 4.4 or less, he probably becomes a top 4 pick lock.

I wouldn't have freaked out if he was a 4.6-4.65 guy either.

 

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9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

People forget that guys like Hopkins and Evans were in the 4.5-4.6 range.

Had he ran a low 4.4 or less, he probably becomes a top 4 pick lock.

I wouldn't have freaked out if he was a 4.6-4.65 guy either.

 

Exactly

Everyone wants speed at WR because we don't have it right now, but just because you want speed, doesn't mean EVERY prospect we look at there needs to be a burner.

You can find speed at other places in the draft or FA, but guys with T-Mac's size, hands, and catch radius just don't come around often.  Those things make him more of a unicorn than speed would, there is only one Tyreek Hill in the league, the other FAST players aren't quite like him, but there are still far more FAST players in this league than guys like T-Mac.

If you need a player like T-Mac to also have track speed, then you're never going to be happy.  There's been 2 of those guys in NFL history, Calvin and Moss, so sure, let's poo on T-Mac because he doesn't have the speed of maybe the 2 best WRs of all time.

We have Thielen for this season, but there isn't a current WR on the roster who you can pencil in as a guaranteed starter in 2026, passing on a guy like T-Mac when that's our WR room is just insane to me.

Sure, we see some potential in XL and Coker, but both are closer to being JAGs than true #1 or even #2 WRs as of right now.  T-Mac gives us a #1 for the next decade, I don't understand how people are willing to pass on that because he isn't a track star, particularly when our QB doesn't even have the type of arm to properly and fully take advantage of that type of speed anyways.

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15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. 

Remember when Calvin Johnson wasn't going to run the 40 at the combine, changed his mind, borrowed some shoes and ran a 4.35?

Now that is how you show people.

Yup. Nothing but respect on that one.

 

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21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. 

Remember when Calvin Johnson wasn't going to run the 40 at the combine, changed his mind, borrowed some shoes and ran a 4.35?

Now that is how you show people.

It's gonna be one of the EDGE or LB prospects they've been gushing over.  (Quoted the wrong post whoops)

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