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Andrew Luck News & Updates

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Ricky Spanish Grand Master

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Exactly right, the only mistake is you've got the arrow pointing the wrong direction :D.

Sorry, but I'm just not that impressed by Newton. Sure he's exciting and can break a big play...in college. But from what I've seen of him, many of his big plays would not fly in the NFL. His passing, while good, is relatively unchallenged. Teams cheat so bad against the run against Auburn that most of the time, he's throwing to wide open receivers...and even then, it's usually to the first or possibly second option. He rarely has to go through his progressions or thread the needle to squeeze the pass in between defenders.

A lot of people want to make the Vick comparison, and in his passing game, it is a good one. Both had offenses tailored to their athleticism and ability to run/improvise. Neither were asked to do a whole lot as a passer but take what the defense gave them, then run if something wasn't there after the initial read. I will give Newton this, though, I do think he is more accurate than Vick coming out of college, but we don't know if he can do it consistently when things aren't laid out for him.

As a runner, there's little comparison to Vick other than the general point that they are both running QB's. Vick's running was based on his superb quickness and speed and the ability to make guys miss, while Newton's is based on being athletic enough to force the defender into arm tackles, then being big and strong enough to run through those tackles (although he can make guys in college miss on occasion, I don't believe he has the quickness to regularly do it in the NFL). And in the NFL, he won't be running through arm tackles like he does in college. (I'm not talking about the runs through wide open lanes that any athletic running QB can make at any level, just the plays that he creates on his own).

Don't get me wrong, I think Newton has the potential to be a decent QB in the NFL, and make the occasional play, I just don't think it will be for a couple of years. But overall, I believe his success as a runner will be similar to Culpeppers pre-injury. Which is good, as long as you have the passing ability to make defenses play honest, but I'm not convinced Newton does at this point. Fwiw, I think Newton is very much like Vince Young (with a better head on his shoulders, hopefully), which is fine for a 2nd or 3rd round QB, but not a 1st.

that's pretty much exactly how i feel about newton as well.

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Newton has skills. That is not in question. The question I have is though, just like The Golden Calf of Bristol, Alex Smith, and others who have played in the spread offense in college is how long will it take for them to transistion to the different nuances of a pro-style offense. Luck is playing in a pro-style offense already so there is less of a learning curve.

Is Newton the type of player who will be the first one in the building and the last one out using all of his time to study like Manning and Ryan or will he be more like Russell and Leaf who spent the off-season party-ing and thinking that just because they had all of the physical tools that they did not need to develop any further.

Newton is a one year starter in FBS. I know that it was the SEC but it is still college. He rarely took a hit in college with his scrambling ability. That won't be the case in the NFL. Can he take hits? How does he throw when under pressure? does he step up into the pocket well or merely just take off running every time?

To me their are more questions about Newton than answers. Yes, he has skills and uses them effectively in college, but are those skills so dazzling that people don't see his flaws in how he relates to being an NFL QB?

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Take careful note at exactly why he doesn't think Luck is a franchise quarterback found at 1:07, I think you'll find some (a) very good point why Luck won't be a good quarterback. Also whenever he says 'I'm just', he says it twice...u know he means business.

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He loved Clausen

More like up and down on Clausen. I've seen quotes where he says "he has all the tools to succeed" and other quotes where he says "I'm not a big Clausen fan."

It's hard to tell what he really thinks. Draft analysts are often afraid to go against the grain or say anything too negative.

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Did anyone hear what chris mortensen said about Luck this morning? ESPN radio said something like "hear what chris mortensen has to say about why the possible #1 pick Andrew luck might be staying in school next year". This was around 9:30 am cst and I missed it cause it cut to commercial and I had to go into church. Anyone know what they were alluding to?

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this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for panthers FO.. You don't find a situation where your coach is on his last year of a his contract, you have a number 1 pick in the draft, and the best player in the draft won't leave unless his coach goes too; who is undoudtably an nfl coach with Panther characteristics.

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this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for panthers FO.. You don't find a situation where your coach is on his last year of a his contract, you have a number 1 pick in the draft, and the best player in the draft won't leave unless his coach goes too; who is undoudtably an nfl coach with Panther characteristics.

Wrong... We don't have the #1 pick yet

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