Correct me if I am wrong...

[Kettle]

Excuse me for being interested in how he faired against non QB stat padding defenses.

VT is a top 20. Game is Jan 3. I think every panther fan will be watching.

duh

[thefuzz]

This is funny to me.

The NFL is all about money, they will not be going back to the old grind it out games, they are not fun enough to watch to the fairweather fan.

I wonder how many people enjoyed the Bears vs Jets game this week?

We will take the QB if he comes out.

[Chaos]

Not sure yet. I am waiting to see who our new HC is before I decide.

I think JR hires another defensive minded run out the clock coach. If so, trade down for Fairley, pick up a second rounder and pick up best available WR. I am not so certain Moore or Clausen are not good enough to be game managers.

You motor-boatin' sonofabitch, you old sailor you!!

Every member of this esteemed forum should clear their calendar on the night of January 3rd, because you have an important assignment as previously mentioned. We must watch the orange bowl, take off the Cardinal red-colored glasses, and try to evaluate this kid's game against a legit college defense on a neutral field in a big-game environment.

Then, there should be lots of healthy debate starting that night and the morning of January 4th. No excuses, all must watch! You too, Martin Hurney.

[Jhyler12]

I hope Luck turns out to be half as good as most people on the huddle are saying he is otherwise another draft and few seasons down the tubes. I never watched the kid play but we do not need a bust again!

[Carl Spackler]

If Luck doesn't come out, pick Fairley. You don't trade down, because who will trade up to get Peterson or Green? Nobody.

[PanthaSan]

Dibs on the one in yellow!

[Neylus]

Not taking the cheese, uh uh.

[Erik Stall]

You motor-boatin' sonofabitch, you old sailor you!!

Every member of this esteemed forum should clear their calendar on the night of January 3rd, because you have an important assignment as previously mentioned. We must watch the orange bowl, take off the Cardinal red-colored glasses, and try to evaluate this kid's game against a legit college defense on a neutral field in a big-game environment.

Then, there should be lots of healthy debate starting that night and the morning of January 4th. No excuses, all must watch! You too, Martin Hurney.

Even if Luck tears it up against VT, what does that prove? This is the same team that gave up 21 to James Madison earlier this year.

In any case, regardless if you consider Luck God, very good, pretty good or just good, he needs to be the pick. This isn't a "game manager" league anymore. Look at the QBs in the playoffs: Brady, Roethlisberger, Cassel, Manning, Flacco, Sanchez, Ryan, Cutler, Vick, Bradford, Brees, Rodgers. With the exception of Sanchez and maybe Flacco, all of those guys are pretty damn good. In fact, the only QBs missing from this list that enter into the discussion are Rivers and Schaub. But they've got non-existent defenses.

[pstall]

For the record I have not gone Lady Gaga over Luck. Or Newton. It's a roll of the dice with every pick.

Cutler is the only qb in the last couple of years that fits the profile of going against top notch D's with SEC.

Flacco and Big Ben played D1AA and mid major football and both have been to the playoffs multiple times. Two SB's for Big Ben. Sure having a great D helps but the qb's have played well.

Matt Ryan has played in the ACC. A casual look at the ACC and you want to puke, but the ACC has produced very good NFL defenders the last few years.

I have no issues with Luck or Newton and so far, no hint of red flags for me. The Panthers have what appears to be one of the more safter #1 overall picks coming up. For the record, I totally didn't think Alex Smith was the overall top pick when he came out either.

[House]

Well, his college coach said that he was the best QB he has ever seen. What greater endorsement of a player do you need?

Especially because the college coaches for guys like Leaf and Russell were practically begging teams not to pick thier busted ass players.

[MadHatter]

But Luck faced a top 20 defense once this season.

He was 29 of 46, 241 yards, 2 scores, 2 picks.

Not saying the kid is not a legit NFL QB, but seriously, most of you are completely delusional with how much you are building him up.

Well played Zod....posting more controversial statements to generate more traffic on the board.

You are a Capitalist Pig at heart....and I respect that.

[Montsta]

The hype alone will make him an 83+ overall on Madden, and that's really all that matters. I will dominate once again.

[Floppin]

Armanti Edwards was 17/23 for 227yds and 3td's passing and rushed for 62 yards and another td against then #5 Michigan in 2007 and the general consensus is that he is not an NFL caliber quarterback.

What does this mean? That looking at individual game statistics as a barometer for success is foolish and is just a shallow way to justify a fake argument.

[HSCBandit07]

For the record I have not gone Lady Gaga over Luck. Or Newton. It's a roll of the dice with every pick.

Cutler is the only qb in the last couple of years that fits the profile of going against top notch D's with SEC.

Flacco and Big Ben played D1AA and mid major football and both have been to the playoffs multiple times. Two SB's for Big Ben. Sure having a great D helps but the qb's have played well.

Matt Ryan has played in the ACC. A casual look at the ACC and you want to puke, but the ACC has produced very good NFL defenders the last few years.

I have no issues with Luck or Newton and so far, no hint of red flags for me. The Panthers have what appears to be one of the more safter #1 overall picks coming up. For the record, I totally didn't think Alex Smith was the overall top pick when he came out either.

Aside from character and mechanics issues you mean?