a closer look at marcell dareus

[SorthNarolina]

Oh wow we traded down 5 spots huh? What did you project we would get to move down 5 spots?

read my mock draft lazy bones!

seriously though a mere 2nd and i used it to draft kyle rudolph:party:

[panthers55]

Seriously?? They make a huge deal about his play against a Michigan State team that lost 49-7.

They talk about his great play against J'Michael Deane who is 6'5" and 312. After all Deane was selected in the third round in the Canadian Football league in 2010. He is ranked the 40th best offensive tackle in this year's draft.

Dareus is a good football player but better than Fairley??? Not really. Dareus was not that dominant all year and had a great game against a Michigan State team that played very poorly. We wouldn't pick him number 1 in the draft.

[JawnyBlaze]

He's been better than Fairley for like 3 years. Were his stats better than Fairley's? No. Did he have as many Sportscenter moments? No. But he played a different position in a different defense that doesn't bring a lot of hype for his role. I think he's got more talent and more drive than Fairley, and Fairley has better measurables at the moment. I think Dareus would be a very good DT in our defense, maybe not racking up the stats, but doing what we would need from a DT.

[WilkinsonDonnie]

I am concerned about Fairley's "one year wonder" status and the issues he has with pad level...

I noticed Fairley does play high up, and I dont think Rivera wants someone with issues like he has had. I'd love to see us trade down some and take Peterson, then trade up our second to take Paea who will drop possibly out of first, or the UNC/Clemson/Illinois DT's who are all good. But truth is we need two DT and will probably draft a TE early.

[Jackofalltrades]

I noticed Fairley does play high up, and I dont think Rivera wants someone with issues like he has had. I'd love to see us trade down some and take Peterson, then trade up our second to take Paea who will drop possibly out of first, or the UNC/Clemson/Illinois DT's who are all good. But truth is we need two DT and will probably draft a TE early.

Dareus and Fairley are two very different DT's. In simple terms Fairley = Jenkins and Dareus = Kemo.

Fairley is a dynamic 3 tech penetrator who blew up last season. He'll spend a good bit of time in opposing backfields, but will need to improve lower body strength to anchor against the run.

Dareus is more of a NT who will eat up space, consume blockers and allow others to penetrate. He's got a thick lower body, plays with good leverage until tired and is hard to move off his spot.

Both are equally important, but who has a better chance of applying pressure and stopping the run? I believe it's Fairley. I also see the need for someone who can eliminate space for QB's to step up and throw. Charles Johnson would have had 5 more sacks if QB's couldn't just step out of the way.

[Peppers90 NC]

read my mock draft lazy bones!

seriously though a mere 2nd and i used it to draft kyle rudolph:party:

na i wont waste my time b/c if u seriously think someone will give their 2nd to move up 6 or 7 spots, youre just ignorant.

[bababoey]

Seriously?? They make a huge deal about his play against a Michigan State team that lost 49-7.

They talk about his great play against J'Michael Deane who is 6'5" and 312. After all Deane was selected in the third round in the Canadian Football league in 2010. He is ranked the 40th best offensive tackle in this year's draft.

Dareus is a good football player but better than Fairley??? Not really. Dareus was not that dominant all year and had a great game against a Michigan State team that played very poorly. We wouldn't pick him number 1 in the draft.

Dareus was hurt all year really. Hamstring and other leg injuries. Really he played better 2 years ago when they won the BCS Champsionship than he did last year.

Dareus is more polished than Fairley. You can really see this when they play in person(which I got to see both this past year ). He uses his hands better he is stonger especilly in the lower body. But Fairely has more of the stuff you just can't teach. Quickness, speed, and when he wants he just can't be blocked.

Dareus might be better his rookie year but, if Fairley has the desire to be, Fairley has the talent to put up Warren Sapp kind of numbers and just be at another level than just about any other DL in the game except for Suh.

Anyway thats just what I think. And if you have a chance to draft a guy like that and you think you can movidate him you do it.

[Murph]

na i wont waste my time b/c if u seriously think someone will give their 2nd to move up 6 or 7 spots, youre just ignorant.

U might want to look at prior draft day trades involving the #1 pick. Lots of compensation given up to move to that spot.

[Peppers90 NC]

U might want to look at prior draft day trades involving the #1 pick. Lots of compensation given up to move to that spot.

so u think a team will give up their top 5 second round pick to move up 4 spots? i would love that but you dont last long in the nfl making bad decisions like that.

[ncbobcat]

Dareus looks much stiffer and lumbering compared to Fairley. Nick is definitely a more fluid athelte. Dareus' first step, while good, isn't as explosive as Fairley's either.

Fairley>Dareus

[SPANKY]

If we could somehow land Fairley and Taylor both, that would be a nasty pair of DT's, with Johnson and Hardy at DE...you can say I'am a dreamer, but I'am not the only one.

[scpanther22]

neither of them are close to as complete as Suh and Mccoy, either way it would suck to draft them that high

Suh yeah but IDK about Mccoy. I think Fairley is better.

[Peppers90 NC]

Suh yeah but IDK about Mccoy. I think Fairley is better.

yea mccoy is a huge drop off from suh, i think fairley can be at least as good as mccoy if not better.

[Jackofalltrades]

If we could somehow land Fairley and Taylor both, that would be a nasty pair of DT's, with Johnson and Hardy at DE...you can say I'am a dreamer, but I'am not the only one.

This is a pipe dream, but I'm right there with you.