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Schefter: CBA Meeting for Today Canceled, JR Rubbing People Wrong Way


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hes not trying to sabotage anything, that is retarded. He loses a TON of money in the event of a lockout. He just wants a deal favorable to owners.

JR is the most prepared for the lockout. How do you not see every decision he made the last two seasons, his press conference and current state his team is in.

Sabotaging to get at least to a lock out is the JR plan...he does not want to lose a season.....but he does want to miss the beginning of the season to get the best deal.

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This is 100% what this is. The Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Packers, Falcons, Saints did not dump contracts...stagnate the growth and development of players/coaches for the CBA. JR did...as we have seen the last 2 years.

His sons were against this so they were fired. He brought a president in to say yes sir...and execute this CBA "panic room" plan that is the Panthers.

I think JR thought he had the ear of the majority of the owners 2 yrs ago but as the lockout looms closer, owners and Goddell see the horrible PR and financial impact they may take and maybe refocusing on having a resolution.

JR did it to plan...others owners kinda did it and if there is a resolution then all of JR's decisions the last two years: not renewing contracts, not getting Free Agents, Keeping Fox for 2 extra years(when he would have fired him), firing his sons, losing all the assistants.....this may have long term effects if JR becomes the face of owner greed in spite of winning, fans and his player-coaches.

I mean if you are a high profile Free Agent is the Panthers organization where you want to go? Is JR who you want to play for as he tried to dissolve the player union? Possible Black balling from the players side is a great possibility.

if anything this past year helped the growth and development of a very young team.

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JR is the most prepared for the lockout. How do you not see every decision he made the last two seasons, his press conference and current state his team is in.

Sabotaging to get at least to a lock out is the JR plan...he does not want to lose a season.....but he does want to miss the beginning of the season to get the best deal.

Most prepared does not mean he is actively causing it.

He was preparing for a lockout, but it so happened that in doing so, he was also trying to force coaches to play and groom young talent.

The situation here is much more complicated than JR just setting it all up to get a better deal for the owners.

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JR didn't fire his sons as part of some master scheme. mark and jon were fired because they couldn't get along or agree on anything. their disputes became distracting and JR let them go.

to suggest that JR is trying to save face is kind of foolish. there's nothing to save face from. there is no master scheme. he's still very respected around the league by both the other owners and players. nothing in regards to this CBA (especially these rumors) is going to change that.

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if anything this past year helped the growth and development of a very young team.

If John Fox and staff were gone i would agree..I di watch the games last season and If you mean guys got playing time...then yes they grew and developed..If you mean we got better since our exit in the playoffs against the Cardinals..then no.

I saw a team struggle and look like they just practiced in the parking lot before the game. James Anderson and CJ really developed but they were just extended playing time. Both were good in the previous years.

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