Cam Newton=Big Ben???

[tvandenberg]

These two things Clausen will never be able to do.

And, see over the line of scrimmage.

That said, I'm still very torn on this issue. :willy_nilly:

[King Taharqa]

I agree.

But also think that Roethlisberger has chance of being a great QB.

Roethlisberger has 2 rings. Other "great QBs" have none. Just because you put up big passing yards in the regular season (then fold up in the dance when it counts) does not make you "great".

[Snake]

And, see over the line of scrimmage.

That said, I'm still very torn on this issue. :willy_nilly:

Hey Brees does well and so does Vick but Clausen will never be either of those two. Cam is so tall he throws down to his WRs like Manning does.

[CarolinaKat]

The ones saying Newton can't do this Newton can't do that probably never played a real game of football in their life.

Why should anyone respect what you say:out:

[mav1234]

I must say I tend to agree but i don't really remember the system Ben played in a Miami(oh). Anybody know?

Big Ben played in a spread offense, but NOT a spread option, and Ben NEVER ran the ball in college. He used his size and mobility to move around and out of the pocket and complete throws down the field. He had like 80 TDs and 13000 yards passing in his time at Miami of Ohio, completing nearly 70% of his passes for a 9.1 YPA. He was an incredible talent and while there were questions about him, the sheer volume of film on him, in which he actually grew as a passer from year to year, really buoyed his cause...Even with all that, he wasn't the #1 picked at his position.

This is not meant to be a commentary on Newton in college, just saying that Big Ben was in a pass happy offense and showed loads of potential in college.

[Mother Grabber]

Kordell was called 'Slash' for a reason. Cam Newton is strictly a play-caller.

A very terrible, and insulting comparison to either player(s) to be honest.

So, Cam Newton can't do anything but play QB? I thought his strength was that he could run all over everyone in the open field and was the best athlete in the draft...WR/TE/Split End things. Note the slashes.

His knocks are reading defenses and throwing accuracy...QB things.

[panthers55]

I would expect Whitfield to talk up Newton, that is part of his job. But he also has his credibility on the line as a professional coach. He isn't going to damage his reputation saying Newton is something he is not. He sees Big Ben in Newton and he should surely know what that looks like.

I am not surprised. Seems every people who have worked with him always has great things to say about him. And yet people will still make the Young and Russell comparisons. I was saying he was a quicker version of Roethlisburger months ago.

[CarolinaKat]

This is not meant to be a commentary on Newton in college, just saying that Big Ben was in a pass happy offense and showed loads of potential in college.

And Newton didn't? You cant really honestly compare what Newton did in college to what Big "rapist" Ben did on the field. You might be able to compare their size and mobility but not their stats. Even though Newton only had one good year, apparently he only needed one. Ben played for the mighty Red Hawks in the wack ass Mid American conference. He racked up those yards against teams my high school could probably beat. Newton lead the entire NCAA in passing %. Thats coming from a "one read and run" offense.

[mav1234]

And Newton didn't? You cant really honestly compare what Newton did in college to what Big "rapist" Ben did on the field. You might be able to compare their size and mobility but not their stats. Even though Newton only had one good year, apparently he only needed one. Ben played for the mighty Red Hawks in the wack ass Mid American conference. He racked up those yards against teams my high school could probably beat. Newton lead the entire NCAA in passing %. Thats coming from a "one read and run" offense.

uh no he didn't, sorry.

I didn't say Newton had no potential or didn't show loads of potential or whatever. I just said that Big Ben played for several years in a pass happy offense and so there was tons of film of him improving each year and ripping people apart. yes, the quality of his opponents were questioned, which is just one of the reasons he "fell" as far as he did.

[CarolinaKat]

uh no he didn't, sorry.

Prove it

[mav1234]

Prove it

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/completionPct

? :P

only category he lead according to that is YPA. He certainly had some nice numbers, not trying to diminish that, just saying... he wasn't #1 in completion percentage.

[teeray]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/completionPct

? :P

only category he lead according to that is YPA. He certainly had some nice numbers, not trying to diminish that, just saying... he wasn't #1 in completion percentage.

Mav is right. BUT if Cam Newton had just a little bit better NC game he would have recorded the highest QB rating in the HISTORY of the NCAA. Instead he didn't even have the highest efficiency this year (Moore).

And although Cam Newton only had one good year it was arguably the best year at QB in NCAA history when you consider his passing and rushing numbers.

[DaveThePanther2008]

And, see over the line of scrimmage.

That said, I'm still very torn on this issue. :willy_nilly:

I am with you on this one. I have a sneaking suspicion he is going to surprise alot of people.

If he has a good running game (and we do) some protection and some time at #2 he might be that Superstar QB we have been looking for. The man has a good arm, Size and quickness and a gamer mentality.

The downside.. Vince Young, J. Russell have set precedence.

Came from a simple offense see J. Russell.

Mobile QB that won the National Championship see Vince Young.

Couple of things I took from this article.

1. Whitfield describes Newton as an "active learner," someone as interested in the "why" as the "what," who has a thirst to improve and an aptitude for the game. He thinks, through the draft process, the quarterback's intelligence will shine through.

Obviously he isn't going to trash the guy he is training but I also believe that Cam wants to learn it all.

2. Cam is extremely bright, very assertive, and very observant," said Whitfield. "He wants to get this down. He understands why some big-time quarterbacks wound up out of the league, he led that conversation. He understands the guys who washed out basically flunked out. Their arms didn't fall off, they didn't shrink. It's attention to the classroom work, the playbook, and Cam understands that it has extended careers for guys like Kerry Collins, Marc Bulger and Matt Hasselbeck.

If he is taking notice of past players obviously he is concerned about failing.

It will be a scary adventurous choice but I wouldn't be too upset if we did. Don't think we will but wouldn't be too upset if we did.

[monstercat]

I believe it's a good thing that Cam has a fear of failure. It sure beats the hell out of drafting the next Michael Vick, who thought he was the best thing since sliced bread and didn't need to work for his money. Fear is the strongest motivator there is, and I hope he never loses it, if the Panthers draft him.