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Round 4, Pick 20 (#122) - Lathan Ransom, SAF, Ohio State

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7 hours ago, jfra78 said:

If we can generate a pass rush we won't need all world safeties back there

I understand the theory but if that were true, why did we let Chinn go and didn’t we just draft Chinn V2.0?  If Evero couldn’t figure out how to use Chinn effectively, what is different about Ransom?  Not trying to be argumentative but, make it make sense

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29 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

One of the few picks that made sense.  I don't mind this pick at all.

I was pumped to get him.  I also think we are going to be pleasantly surprised by the TE Evans. 

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2 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

I understand the theory but if that were true, why did we let Chinn go and didn’t we just draft Chinn V2.0?  If Evero couldn’t figure out how to use Chinn effectively, what is different about Ransom?  Not trying to be argumentative but, make it make sense

Because Chinn couldn't cover

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8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I was pumped to get him.  I also think we are going to be pleasantly surprised by the TE Evans. 

I like we got a TE that's a true in-line guy.  I like his potential, but that's all it is as this point...potential.

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8 minutes ago, Icege said:

Because Chinn couldn't cover

Both of our safeties can play deep in cover 1, 2, 3, 4. They can read run quickly and they take smart angles.  They can cover most RBs and TEs in man.  Before, we had some Willie Mays playing Center field 20 yards off the ball.

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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

I like we got a TE that's a true in-line guy.  I like his potential, but that's all it is as this point...potential.

he had a good 2023 and I hope he gets over the injury bug.

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11 minutes ago, Icege said:

Because Chinn couldn't cover

And Ransom?  I don’t follow OSU so, I have only seen the highlight videos and write-ups.  He is a heat seeking missile in run defense but questionable in coverage.  I really hope that assessment is incorrect and he comes with coverage skills but, the write-ups I’ve read list coverage skills in the ‘weakness’ category. 

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8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Both of our safeties can play deep in cover 1, 2, 3, 4. They can read run quickly and they take smart angles.  They can cover most RBs and TEs in man.  Before, we had some Willie Mays playing Center field 20 yards off the ball.

If that is true, then I’m liking this pick a whole lot more.

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58 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

And Ransom?  I don’t follow OSU so, I have only seen the highlight videos and write-ups.  He is a heat seeking missile in run defense but questionable in coverage.  I really hope that assessment is incorrect and he comes with coverage skills but, the write-ups I’ve read list coverage skills in the ‘weakness’ category. 

Ransom isn't being brought in to be the free/boundary safety. He's coming in to be the back-up and eventual replacement for Trevon Moehrig as the strong/box safety.

Moehrig's current deal has his cap hit leaping from $7.2M this season to $21.3M next season and $22.5M in 2027. He can be cut then though to save $16.5M.

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Ransom being a day three pick means that he's going to have to cut his teeth on special teams and be ready to rotate in if Moehrig goes down.

I believe that the team is still looking to bring in Blackmon to be the starting FS, but could see them opting to see what Demani does as the starter.

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11 hours ago, csx said:

PFF had Swinson above both Scourton and Princely and he was available at both picks. There were also several running backs they ranked ahead of Etienne that we didn't take.

So I don't think it's that simple.

 

 

bro you read it wrong or something.

scourton is 29

swinson is 47

princely is 50 basically same edge.

 

Ill give you eitenne wasn't highly rated, but his trait was by PFF- Trevor Etienne's 10-yard split at the NFL Combine was 1.51 seconds. This time ranked second-best among running backs at the combine, tied with another player. Looking for PFF traits, they also said he was a perfect zone system fit, the Panthers run zone base. 

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PFF only gave 3 A+ grades, Panthers were one of them. 100% played a role, one of new hires started PFF and they were using his new/old models. Dave talked about getting updates on player runs, there was a RB one right at eitenne. 

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