How would you feel if Bryce did this in 2025

[Navy_football]

2 minutes ago, NAS said:

What Bryce lacks in elite arm strength he makes up with being able to throw from multiple angles and off platform throws.  Sometimes people don’t realize that’s just as important. But there is nothing about his arm strength that gives me pause he cleared that up last year

He definitely doesn't have elite arm strength. But he doesn't have the weak arm guys keep saying he has. Remember, he was overthrowing guys deep before. Now, he's put a little more air under his throws and he's completing them. Probably more of an adjustment to speed. He was used to having burners out wide. Not big body receivers. 

[Navy_football]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think you need a big arm to make certain throws to the perimeter.  Deep is DNA, timing and placement.  

 

And he does it. He doesn't put it on a rope like Allen. He throws with anticipation and timing. Now, if he tried to throw that deep out late like Cam used to, he's probably looking at a pick 6. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

To the original post, I'd feel pretty good if he did that.  I'd want him to start again the following year, and I'd pick up his 5th year option.  I would probably not feel like it's time to give him the bag yet though.  I say probably because those stats don't have context.  If he led 7 game winning drives for example, maybe it's time to pay him.

[PantherKyle]

highly recommend, cool and hype watch

[Icege]

14 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

highly recommend, cool and hype watch

Great watch, thanks for the link. I've got their Baker vid queued up next.

 

Odd that folks seemed to have an issue with understanding BTT% but not TWP%... almost like the issue isn't so much the data but what it does to their narrative

[Icege]

On 5/6/2025 at 7:38 PM, CRA said:

Based on their definition, basically 90% of well placed balls to Adam Theilen would count as a big time throws.  Because all those are tight windows.  That’s where I think the definition is muddy in terms of what they do and don’t count.   Probably would help figure it out if we had a game and the number of throws they award him to get an idea of what does and doesn’t count 
 

a pass with high difficulty and value, often characterized by excellent ball location and timing, typically thrown further downfield or into a tighter window

 

On 5/7/2025 at 8:14 AM, CRA said:

Sure, but I have long acknowledged he got better.  He went from horrific to mid-lower end starter.  But now you can’t say that…..you got people wanting to spin top 10 play if you look at it this way, great deep ball passer if you only acknowledge x.  

I mean the headline in that article is nice for fans to run with.   But in reality Bryce Young was not the best deep passer in week 12.  Far from it.  He went 2 of 7 with no TDs deep.  The week was full of guy who went something along the lines of 3 of 4 with a bomb TD.   So Bryce then gets appointed best deep passer for say….plays like a 50/50 jump ball while trailing late to a fully covered AT that goes incomplete but could have been something given how the defender played it….not an actual good play.  But that could have been a good play.  I mean, same play could have been a pick if everything else was the same and the defender who had AT blanketed played the ball better (nothing changes for Bryce in terms of what he did.  It’s just a 50/50ish ball to someone covered)….and his entire best deep passer week 12 is built off plays that never happened over guys that actually got it done.  

we should be happy Bryce went from shouldn’t of been drafted play to serviceable starter last year.  But all this spin that he is somehow actually sneaky great just ain’t something I’m doing yet 

So... about that...