Delete this franchise

[frankw]

12 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Ppl want to trade Melo? Am I wrong for thinking that would be a bad idea? 

From my what I have seen the overwhelming majority of people who are considering the notion a possibility don't really want to see it happen but are considering so for a number of reasons. Most importantly availability. Secondly even when he plays the last few seasons he has been red hot or ice cold. Then there is the subject of his defense which to say the least leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the image of Ball inactive laughing it up on the sideline (while our team was getting the doors blown off) with previous busts who are now relegated to hanging on by a thread in the g league. I think we should be able to recognize with the team going out of their way to put a very strong emphasis on culture and leadership with the conclusion of this years draft that they expect LaMelo to lead the way this upcoming season and that begins with making significant strides and trending in a positive direction in the aforementioned aspects above. It just has to happen.

Edited June 27 by frankw

[carpanfan96]

2 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

You mean the guy who hasn't shown up to Utah yet and whose camp has had "minimal contact" with the team since draft night? That's immediately buying in?

He's reporting to the team tomorrow with his family and the press conference is set for Sunday. 

[WUnderhill]

4 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

You mean the guy who hasn't shown up to Utah yet and whose camp has had "minimal contact" with the team since draft night? That's immediately buying in?

Well everybody and their momma thought he sounded bought in when he was interviewed post-draft, which was when I posted. All that other stuff you mentioned just came out and I made that post a day and a half ago the morning after he was drafted when he sounded pretty bought in. The Jazz say there’s no problems atp, so we’ll see. But yeah obviously if his actions don’t match up with his words it will be a shitty look.

[WUnderhill]

3 hours ago, PanthersNCSU said:

I can't see a world where the money goes down, but maybe your lottery odds are now your contract numbers you can offer. 

Thunder? You can offer Flagg 4 years, 20 million. 

Hornets? You can offer Flagg 4 years, 80 million. 

Some form of a system where the money is still there, but so is the freedom of choice (on top of bad teams getting *some* competitive advantage to signing them). 

That would be interesting but I would definitely want them to go to a hard cap if they went that route. And if they ever got rid of the draft completely, boy if you think the Hornets are fugged now…

[Ornias]

29 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

That would be interesting but I would definitely want them to go to a hard cap if they went that route. And if they ever got rid of the draft completely, boy if you think the Hornets are fugged now…

There would be like 10 teams that got all the top flight players. Carolina would be an actual G league team. 

[frankw]

51 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Well everybody and their momma thought he sounded bought in when he was interviewed post-draft, which was when I posted. All that other stuff you mentioned just came out and I made that post a day and a half ago the morning after he was drafted when he sounded pretty bought in. The Jazz say there’s no problems atp, so we’ll see. But yeah obviously if his actions don’t match up with his words it will be a shitty look.

Let's keep it real here. That man did not look or sound like someone thrilled to be drafted to the Utah Jazz.

[carpanfan96]

2 hours ago, Ornias said:

There would be like 10 teams that got all the top flight players. Carolina would be an actual G league team. 

Only way it would work is a hard cap of like 150m, lower max contracts, limit rookie contracts, etc which players will never go for. 

[Joe Bear]

On 6/27/2025 at 8:43 PM, frankw said:

Let's keep it real here. That man did not look or sound like someone thrilled to be drafted to the Utah Jazz.

Vancouver Steve Francis vibes.

[carpanfan96]

On 6/27/2025 at 8:43 PM, frankw said:

Let's keep it real here. That man did not look or sound like someone thrilled to be drafted to the Utah Jazz.

 

36 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Vancouver Steve Francis vibes.

Only thing that matters is that he reported to the team with his family while he was wearing team gear. 

[toldozer]

On 6/27/2025 at 5:31 PM, frankw said:

From my what I have seen the overwhelming majority of people who are considering the notion a possibility don't really want to see it happen but are considering so for a number of reasons. Most importantly availability. Secondly even when he plays the last few seasons he has been red hot or ice cold. Then there is the subject of his defense which to say the least leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the image of Ball inactive laughing it up on the sideline (while our team was getting the doors blown off) with previous busts who are now relegated to hanging on by a thread in the g league. I think we should be able to recognize with the team going out of their way to put a very strong emphasis on culture and leadership with the conclusion of this years draft that they expect LaMelo to lead the way this upcoming season and that begins with making significant strides and trending in a positive direction in the aforementioned aspects above. It just has to happen.

LaMelos attitude and effort is a stench on this franchise. He could be better than the current MVP (like light years better) if he gave a fug. He's basically everything people claimed Cam was. I think the reason a lot of people want him gone is because they understand what he could be but isn't.

[frankw]

3 hours ago, toldozer said:

LaMelos attitude and effort is a stench on this franchise. He could be better than the current MVP (like light years better) if he gave a fug. He's basically everything people claimed Cam was. I think the reason a lot of people want him gone is because they understand what he could be but isn't.

I don’t think I'd go that far but there is definitely legitimate reason to ask how much he actually values winning and being great as a basketball player. He is very easily distracted with off the court stuff. This has been a public criticism of people like LeBron James with some of the newer generations of "stars". And it is 1000% valid and needed to be said.

All I can say is I hope this is the year. If it is it will be apparent fairly early on. But I get the sense if the same themes continue as the upcoming season progresses the FO could look to move him before the trade deadline. It would suck for a multitude of reasons and I don't want to see it happen but if it did it would be on LaMelo and LaMelo alone because they've given him the keys and are finally putting pieces around him. If he wants to be a great basketball player and win he will be here and do what is necessary for the team to be successful. If not well....

[Shocker]

On 6/26/2025 at 12:16 PM, Daddy_Uncle said:

I just thought we could have gotten more for Mark Williams. Not sure why they were dead set on trading him. Even more pissed we took back that bum micic

2 first round picks for Mark was absolutely criminal.  That is great return.

[carpanfan96]

3 hours ago, Shocker said:

2 first round picks for Mark was absolutely criminal.  That is great return.

Yeah I'm surprised they even got one first for him much less two of them. Hell of a trade by the front office. 

[SOJA]

Front office is killing it, and yall can not be serious wanting Ace Bailey, dude has BUST written all over him. I would be loathe to cheer for a player like him