For those thinking Renfrow isn't making the team...Ha!

[TD alt]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Horn had 14 punt returns in 4 years.   I think way too many people are crediting him for having this ST upper hand that doesn’t really exist 

89 had 72 in just 2 years at Utah. 

NFL punt returners are a different breed.  Gets hard to predict who can handle it.  Didn’t DJ Moore buckle under the pressure with his attempts? 

I do like Horn’s potential though.  He is the most unique WR on the roster vs the rest of the group.  But 6th round WRs are generally that for a reason 

Certainly not a lot, and certainly not a lock.

[cmichd08]

21 hours ago, CRA said:

Horn had 14 punt returns in 4 years.   I think way too many people are crediting him for having this ST upper hand that doesn’t really exist 

89 had 72 in just 2 years at Utah. 

NFL punt returners are a different breed.  Gets hard to predict who can handle it.  Didn’t DJ Moore buckle under the pressure with his attempts? 

I do like Horn’s potential though.  He is the most unique WR on the roster vs the rest of the group.  But 6th round WRs are generally that for a reason 

I think he won't stay on the PS for long if they put him there. They got to find a place for him. 

[TD alt]

From Darin Gantt:

Play of the day: Hunter Renfrow keeps making plays

"Panthers head coach Dave Canales almost shrugged when asked about the sequence and Renfrow's first week in camp..."

"I mean, it's just the Hunter Renfrow I remember," Canales said. "So he looks healthy, and I think everyone who's watched football over the last four or five years remembers what he looks like. And he's really playing at top form right now. I'm really excited to have him here and to have his family, which is right down the road here after this practice to be able to just connect with him.

"And it's a great story that's unfolding right in front of our eyes, so it's really exciting to see him playing out there."

https://www.panthers.com/news/play-of-the-day-hunter-renfrow-keeps-making-plays

More and more evidence. But you non-believers keep thinking what you're thinking...

 

[CRA]

Vintage Hutner in action on this route cooking this dude up 

https://x.com/kassidyghill/status/1949177044434366949?s=46&t=f55N0zsNFevD-XGJBWj1-A

if healthy, he is not going to be #6 in reality  

[Jackie Lee]

 

[Pazhoosier89]

Can we trade Thielen for a depth CB or LB? He and Renfrow are redundant on this roster. 

[frankw]

38 minutes ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

Can we trade Thielen for a depth CB or LB? He and Renfrow are redundant on this roster. 

Careful. You'll rustle some jimmies.

[PootieNunu]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

Careful. You'll rustle some jimmies.

He is not wrong though. If any team would give us a defensive piece worth acquiring for AT you have to jump on that.

Top 3 should be Tet, XL, Coker, Renfrow is younger and cheaper, if he is healthy probably offers more upside as well. 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I think it’s between Horn and Moore. 

[PootieNunu]

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I think it’s between Horn and Moore. 

No way you keep old butterfinger Moore over Horn. 

I would release Moore early see if he can get on with another team. 

Edited July 26, 2025 by PootieNunu

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

He is not wrong though. If any team would give us a defensive piece worth acquiring for AT you have to jump on that.

Top 3 should be Tet, XL, Coker, Renfrow is younger and cheaper, if he is healthy probably offers more upside as well. 

I agree. I just don't know what the market looks like for him. I mean WR trades the last few years the returns are minimal. Even a guy like Hopkins who is 33 only got a 5th in return when he was traded to the Chiefs last year. Unfortunately I feel it's likely at the end of the day that we are virtually the only team valuing Thielen the way we do.

[PootieNunu]

Just now, frankw said:

I agree. I just don't know what the market looks like for him. I mean WR trades the last few years the returns are minimal. Even a guy like Hopkins who is 33 only got a 5th in return when he was traded to the Chiefs last year. Unfortunately I feel it's likely at the end of the day that we are virtually the only team valuing Thielen the way we do.

We wont trade him anyway, even if he had a market.

I really dont see the need for him to see the field all that often though.

[Jackie Lee]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

I think it’s between Horn and Moore. 

Gotta wait for some preseason games but sounds like Horn hitting waivers could be risky. Moore would probably be on the couch waiting for a spot to open due to injury. Gonna depend on how the return game looks in preseason as well, if Horn gets some time back there

[TD alt]

More praise of Renfrow from Tim Weaver (formerly of USA Today's Panthers Wire, now SI.com), and also what I told some of you, my Huddle friends, from the start: keep it all in perspective, and don't conveniently---and perhaps unfairly, discount and label Renfrow as a JAG when it was a very debilitating illness affecting his play. 

 

"It's understandable to be skeptical about Renfrow's abilities at this late point in his career. After all, he missed all of last season due to a bout of ulcerative colitis that also took a serious toll on his production in 2022 and 2023."

 

When Renfrow is healthy, he's an above average guy. Being 29 may hurt or help his chances depending upon perspective, but 29 for receivers generally means that there's still (sometimes plenty) gas in the tank. Renfrow also obviously has plenty of motivation and has come with his game face.

 

"Then agan, seeing is believing and by all accounts Renfrow has been very impressive since joining the Panthers a few months ago...

Where Renfrow will fit in Carolina's new-look receiver corps remains to be seen, but at this rate it's going to be hard to exclude him from the initial 53-man roster."

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/hunter-renfrow-sick-route-panthers-training-camp

Read the room, ladies and gentlemen.

And don't get it twisted; Renfrow isn't the most talented receiver on the team, but we have seen his ceiling, when healthy, in a Raiders offense that wasn't necessary replete with talent. Consider what he can do, especially in the slot, in a Panthers offense primed with young talent (no pun intended).

From sick to "sick routes," eh?

Edited July 27, 2025 by TD alt