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Watching 2024 week 1 Cannales Presser again

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He was pretty quick to bench Young last time. Problem is he doesn’t have anyone to replace him with, we saw Andy slowed down a lot in just a few games. If he benches Bryce again he’s probably done, we’ll probably see Hooker before we see Bryce again if that happens. 

Dave has this whole nice guy thing but I get the feeling that he hates looking incompetent especially after publicly supporting him all offseason. We probably wouldn’t have seen him last year if Andy didn’t get hurt. 
 

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I’m not sure Dave is on the hot seat. I think Bryce has the shorter leash. Dave nor Morgan drafted Bryce. Think they will get a shot to draft their own QB and let the chips fall where they may from there. I still think Canales has a chance to be a successful coach here, but there are going to be a lot of bumps and growing pains along the way. Evero and Bryce will be shown the door before Canales. 

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6 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

I’m not sure Dave is on the hot seat. I think Bryce has the shorter leash. Dave nor Morgan drafted Bryce. Think they will get a shot to draft their own QB and let the chips fall where they may from there. I still think Canales has a chance to be a successful coach here, but there are going to be a lot of bumps and growing pains along the way. Evero and Bryce will be shown the door before Canales. 

That’s what my more practical side tells me. But if Tepper feels extra embarrassed, then who knows

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the thing that worries me is that since Tepper has a rep for firing coaches, I think he will give Dave longer than he deserves. Sadly, a lot of this has to do with Evero who should not have been retained. Dave seems like a nice, cool guy but his rah rah youth pastor shtick isn't working as an NFL HC. Especially paired with a youth pastor QB. 

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1 minute ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

I’m not sure Dave is on the hot seat. I think Bryce has the shorter leash. Dave nor Morgan drafted Bryce. Think they will get a shot to draft their own QB and let the chips fall where they may from there. I still think Canales has a chance to be a successful coach here, but there are going to be a lot of bumps and growing pains along the way. Evero and Bryce will be shown the door before Canales. 

I've never liked this carousel.  GM/Coach/QB carousel that is.  When you cycle through them there's always a scapegoat.  We've had 3 GMs, 7 Head coaches (including interims), and 9 different quarterbacks (starting) since Tepper bought the team.  By and large this has been rotational with coaches inheriting quarterbacks, or GMs inheriting coaches or even worse GMs not picking their coaches.  It's just terrible organizational hierarchy all the time, very dysfunctional.

Hire your GM, let him hire his coach and get the players that coach says he need for his vision.  Create top down accountability.  Cannales was hired to make Bryce look like a good draft pick, if he can't do that then he's failed at the thing he had to have sold himself on.  

Morgan was a head scratcher from day one.  A hold over from the Fitterer mistakes, certainly no history of success as an executive.  Has always felt like a yes man for Tepper or a blindfolded visions of going young everywhere and letting them learn on the job.  Just terrible, terrible organizational vision in a league being dominated by real professionals.

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4 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I mean most of these press conferences by losing coaches sound the same. They made more plays, missed opportunities, gotta get off the field on 3rd down, etc.

Yeah no doubt, the eery part is it could almost be the same game.  Starts off talking about three turnovers and it tracks pretty close as it goes on.

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9 hours ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

I’m not sure Dave is on the hot seat. I think Bryce has the shorter leash. Dave nor Morgan drafted Bryce. Think they will get a shot to draft their own QB and let the chips fall where they may from there. I still think Canales has a chance to be a successful coach here, but there are going to be a lot of bumps and growing pains along the way. Evero and Bryce will be shown the door before Canales. 

Canales is not on the hotseat as of right now. 

If Bryce fails, the plan is for Canales and Morgan to get a QB shot in either the draft or FA. 

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