Jared Feinberg's Panthers v Jaguars film review

[JuliusP_90]

17 hours ago, Panthera onca said:

Wow,we actually still have a Bryce Stan in here. Impressive resilience and or delusion.

I'm still a Bryce stan. I think coaching was the biggest issue in week one. Bryce was bad, but coaching made him look worse. 

I reserve the right to change my opinion next week, but this week the whole fuging team is an issue - and that comes down to the coaches. 

[mrcompletely11]

25 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I thought Canales admitted that T-mac ran the wrong route and Bryce wasn't throwing it away but trying to throw to the back pylon.

due to his poo mechanics he sailed the ball 10ft over everyones head

[Icege]

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

Oh good lord, it's Cover 1 Robber - no need to make it sound like anything revolutionary. Legette was drifting deep rather than coming straight across (bad route running by him), and the safety was already driving up when Bryce chose to throw the ball. To the Jags credit this is exactly the type of play you call robber against (see comments about them reading Canales like a book) but between the predictable call and the crappy execution by both XL and Bryce this was as much on Carolina as it was Jacksonville making a great play. 

Yes, it was a Cover 1 Robber concept. However, by design it's abundantly clear that the Jags had this play call from the Panthers already downloaded.

Rather than rotating the safeties, the Jags have Murray tracking XL from the strong safety spot on the opposite side of the field. Oluokun is the robber while Jarrian Jones follows Chuba instead of XL. Endzone angle shows that Brycen Tremayne had Eric Murray covered up while running his route. The below screenshot show how Murray is getting depth while watching XL make his break.

After identifying that XL is coming on the crosser rather than flying down the field, Murray begins driving on him. Notice how Tremayne is still overlapping him here from the QB's angle.

Arm is in motion. Murray is driving while Oluokun is positioned both to undercut as well as lay the wood should Bryce scramble.

I know some folks think that Bryce should've tucked and ran here, but he's got to get to the 26yd line to convert from the 19 while Oluokun is hovering at the 30. MLB is getting there all day before the QB, and for all of the pearl clutching over him being too small to play QB in the NFL idk why folks would insist he run into that ballistic missile.

This was excellent scouting, design, and execution by the Jaguars. I expect a lot of teams to combat the XL crossers in a similar fashion. How Canales & Young adjust to that will be vital to the success of the offense as that's one of the team's go-to chunk plays.

Edited 21 hours ago by Icege

[AceBoogie]

On 9/8/2025 at 7:36 PM, CRA said:

Bills might be the best team in the NFL…..and skill position talent around Josh Allen is mid.  Mahomes has mid skill talent.  By year 3, great QBs start making things happen regardless of what is around them.  They start making players.    

it’s the never ending being Bryce excuse.  It’s an all star staff, it’s best spot for QB rookie,  a roster that rivals 2003…..then it’s all them.  It’s not Bryce.  Ignore the best offensive day of the entire season was a washed Andy Dalton.  

all offseason people were overjoyed with the WRs.  Our greatest strength….now they are bums.  Bryce has no talent.  

Good QBs make the deep pass to TMac, they make the pass to Renfrow, they don’t chunk the 4th down ball to the stands, they see the S run from his assignment to jump a different route and that INT doesn’t happen……it’s Bryce first and foremost.  QBs are supposed to make people better.  The argument is always they need to make Bryce better. 

Yall are miserable and simple minded so you keep defaulting to a singular issue. If you watch the game and think it’s a simply a QB issue then I can’t help you. 

[AceBoogie]

5 hours ago, Icege said:

Yes, it was a Cover 1 Robber concept. However, by design it's abundantly clear that the Jags had this play call from the Panthers already downloaded.

Rather than rotating the safeties, the Jags have Murray tracking XL from the strong safety spot on the opposite side of the field. Oluokun is the robber while Jarrian Jones follows Chuba instead of XL. Endzone angle shows that Brycen Tremayne had Eric Murray covered up while running his route. The below screenshot show how Murray is getting depth while watching XL make his break.

After identifying that XL is coming on the crosser rather than flying down the field, Murray begins driving on him. Notice how Tremayne is still overlapping him here from the QB's angle.

Arm is in motion. Murray is driving while Oluokun is positioned both to undercut as well as lay the wood should Bryce scramble.

I know some folks think that Bryce should've tucked and ran here, but he's got to get to the 26yd line to convert from the 19 while Oluokun is hovering at the 30. MLB is getting there all day before the QB, and for all of the pearl clutching over him being too small to play QB in the NFL idk why folks would insist he run into that ballistic missile.

 

This was excellent scouting, design, and execution by the Jaguars. I expect a lot of teams to combat the XL crossers in a similar fashion. How Canales & Young adjust to that will be vital to the success of the offense as that's one of the team's go-to chunk plays.

 

As Bryce’s biggest defender this was his worst play of the game. No excusing. I sat in the corner of the stadium behind him watching it unfold. Bad bad bad. 

[AceBoogie]

12 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Bryce plays the game like he's wearing a blindfold. 

And you comment like you watch it with one on. 

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Yall are miserable and simple minded so you keep defaulting to a singular issue. If you watch the game and think it’s a simply a QB issue then I can’t help you. 

I mean I can name 20 issues.  But if you don’t start with the primary issues, the smaller ones don’t matter. 

been saying it since the day was drafted.  I don’t care which direction they go….just pick.  A Bryce centric O or move on.  2nd coach they have hired isn’t running an O that fits him.  Round peg and square hole.  And Bryce has been too bad to dump Dave and start from scratch year 4 and finally doing it.

You want it to be me just moaning about Bryce.  I’ve done all the other issues.  Bryce is simply the biggest issue and fix given where we are.  I started talking about round pegs and desire holes when he was first paired with Frank.  It’s failure by design 

and the miserable thing is lazy.  It’s just being willing to state what people don’t want to hear.  Everyone hated when I talked about Frank’s O paired with Bryce was doomed.   So mad I would talk about Frank at first.  Now everyone is cool with it. 

Bryce Young flat out doesn’t fit these offenses and you can’t make him.  Just reality. Nothing matters until they go a real direction and quit pairing stuff that isn’t going to work.  Not Bryce’s fault, it’s Carolina with the bad recipe 

[AceBoogie]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean I can name 20 issues.  But if you don’t start with the primary issues, the smaller ones don’t matter. 

been saying it since the day was drafted.  I don’t care which direction they go….just pick.  A Bryce centric O or move on.  2nd coach they have hired isn’t running an O that fits him.  Round peg and square hole.  And Bryce has been too bad to dump Dave and start from scratch year 4 and finally doing it.

You want it to me just moaning about Bryce.  I’ve done all the other issues.  Bryce is simply the biggest issue and fix given where we are.  I started talking about round pegs and desire holes when he was first paired with Frank.  It’s failure by design 

and the miserable thing is lazy.  It’s just being willing to state what people don’t want to here.  Everyone hated when I talked about Frank’s O paired with Bryce was doomed.   So mad I would talk about Frank and first.  Now everyone is cool with it. 

Bryce Young flat out doesn’t fit these offenses and you can’t make him.  Just reality. Nothing matters until they go a real direction and quit pairing stuff that isn’t going to work.  Not Bryce’s fault, it’s Carolina with the bad recipe 

Why do you think Bryce played so well at the end of last year? 

[mrcompletely11]

7 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Why do you think Bryce played so well at the end of last year? 

So well lol

[CRA]

Just now, AceBoogie said:

Why do you think Bryce played so well at the end of last year? 

You mean week 18? Play anyone enough at this level and they can stumble into a good game.  Overall his comeback was overstated.  He didn’t actually play great.  Largely flirting with average was sold as great.  It was all Bryce vs Bryce…..not how he really stacked up vs the league. 

 

 

[Proudiddy]

On 9/8/2025 at 6:04 PM, Martin said:

DC has a chance to make a point. Bench XL and start someone else, start Ransom at S, Mays at C etc. That sends the string signal that last week was unacceptable. He won’t, but that is the right move.

If he does all of that and still starts Bryce, none of these moves matter.

[45catfan]

13 hours ago, Icege said:

Shout outs to the former Huddler's all-22 being quoted in the article! idr his name on the Huddle, but Taco from Pantherscord/Twitter knows ball.

 

I said that teams will watch the end of season film from last year and catch on to the 'adjustments' that Bryce made in the second half of the season last year.  Rolling out to his right was a big part of it.  Seems the Jags noticed this in film study.

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I said that teams will watch the end of season film from last year and catch on to the 'adjustments' that Bryce made in the second half of the season last year.  Rolling out to his right was a big part of it.  Seems the Jags noticed this in film study.

Bingo. At the end of the day, teams aren't afraid of Bryce beating them deep. They're treating the entire field as if it's the redzone. I doubt this play was about them preparing for that specific concept as much as it was simply about not fearing Bryce burning them deep. When DBs aren't worried about getting burned they can play really aggressively.

[CRA]

46 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

If he does all of that and still starts Bryce, none of these moves matter.

As far as the Mays needing to start because of the snap issue….it probably would just be better to not have your C snapping literally every ball as the play clock dances between 1 and 0.  I’m sure a lot of those high snaps were just largely tied to desperately trying to avoid taking a penalty.  Which isn’t so much a C issue but an offensive operational issue.