Game Observations

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I'd take the toolsy guy this time around and sit him behind a veteran for a year 

I don't think we can afford to do that, sadly. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

It is not trying to explain away. Bryce only played well when the game was out of reach. As soon as there was a chance the Cards could lose the game they put their foot back on the gas and smothered Bryce and that was with multiple defenders out because of injury.

Just go compare his stats from the first half and our last drive of the game vs the first 28min of the second half. 

That drive where our starting center and our best offensive lineman were out?

[hepcat]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Are there Bryce homers?

I know there are some folks who, even if he has the game of his life, will never forgive him for not being 6'3.

(or, in some cases, not being Cam Newton)

I don't give a sh-t about his size if he can consistently play at an NFL level. 

Sadly, the jury's still out on that. I have seen him play well, but not enough that I'm confident.

He has never once played well in a meaningful NFL game.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Are there Bryce homers?

I know there are some folks who, even if he has the game of his life, will never forgive him for not being 6'3.

(or, in some cases, not being Cam Newton)

I don't give a sh-t about his size if he can consistently play at an NFL level. 

Sadly, the jury's still out on that. I have seen him play well, but not enough that I'm confident.

The jury isn't out. He is simply not an NFL caliber starting QB. I will say that it is certainly possible in a few years after he makes his way through some other NFL stops that he develops but I find that very unlikely.

[UnluckyforSome]

Sounds like it's time for Cade Mays.

 

[Seamonk]

OL got better over time. High snaps are still an issue. Mayes didn't look much better than Corbett but his balls were low enough. Senior Citizen Calais Campbell was owning our interior. 

The run offense wasn't good but we were also playing from behind the entire game due to early mistakes. Later in the game we were running it decently on first and second downs. The short yardage plays had to be designed with chuba as a fullback to get anything. Defenses seem to know when Rico is about to get the ball. They were on him almost immediately every time. 

XL not mentally there. He was trying to do too much or not doing enough. 

The TEs were used really well in the 3rd&4th to eat up dink and dunk yardage. All 3 of our guys were getting looks. 

Brycen seems like a steal. One handed catch behind him was unreal. That should have been a pick. 

Renfrow is getting a lot of looks. He's still putting his body on the line too much to catch some of these horrible balls. 

TMac looked great. There was 1 ball where he should have caught it which was broken up. But pretty much everything else was a big positive yardage play and showing more shiftiness than I thought he would. 

Defensive line turned up. It took them a while. Getting Princely and Nick in helps a lot too. Keeps the older guys fresh. 

Both MLBs are awful. Bad angles. Bad play diagnosis. Bad wrap up. No coverage skills. McBride was eating them up. Kyler's big run was from what should have been a sure-fire sack. Need some more energy and beef from the MLBs in this scheme. 

nick scott... 

Ransom looked like he wanted to hit someone and enforce the middle. 

Moehrig still needs to show us something more. 

They tried to pick on Mike Jack but he started making plays. Don't think they tested Jaycee that much outside of running the ball his way sometimes. 

The tackling at times was really poor. If it wasn't for Arizona constantly shooting themselves in the foot with holding penalties and kyler being kyler, this game could have easily been worse. 

Special teams was tackling better after a while. Kicker looks good. The onside kick was crazy. 

I don't like Bryce. I don't like his playstyle. I don't like what it requires to keep him serviceable. He made some good plays throughout the game. But he also put us in the hole to begin with. I would have liked for Bryce to hit the weight room harder by the 3rd year in the league. I need him to clean up his fumbles. More than throwing costly interceptions, he's fumbling the ball more often than not. He just doesn't have the strength to hold on. Weird that Kyler threw the same lame duck interception as him. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think we can afford to do that, sadly. 

Never a fan of that approach. It misses way too often 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

What impact then? That's usually what you say if your stud DT is anchoring a strong run D, but we're not stopping the run. I notice top DT's all the time. Chris jones, Jalen Carter, Q Williams, Vita Vea, J Simmons etc . Look what Calais Campbell just did to us. I'll give Brown a pass for now because he's coming back from a season ending injury, but his impact has been disappointing 

Compare Campbell's supporting cast to Brown's 

[Eazy-E]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

That drive where our starting center and our best offensive lineman were out?

You mean the same ones that were in there for the first 3 quarters?

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Sounds like it's time for Cade Mays.

 

Don't wish injury on anyone so that's a bummer. But he wasn't the answer at center. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, hepcat said:

He has never once played well in a meaningful NFL game.

How many 'meaningful.games' did the Panthers play last year?

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

You mean the same ones that were in there for the first 3 quarters?

When exactly do you think Hunt and Corbett got hurt?

[OldhamA]

41 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The Good: WR Corps minus XL, Sanders, CB's

The Bad: LB's, DL, Coaching, Run Game, OL Health

The Ugly: Bryce, XL

Guess I'm the only one that thought the D played well today.

The Cards were just repeatedly targeting Rozeboom and Scott - short of just benching them for rookies I don't know what Evero is meant to do there.

He dialled up a perfect blitz on that Murray 30 yard scramble and Rozeboom just whiffed. Should have been a 15 yard loss, drive over.

Jimmy's and Joe's, ladies and gentlemen. 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Sounds like it's time for Cade Mays.

 

Man, I do feel bad for Corbett. He just cannot stay healthy.