So, just what is it that makes a QB "elite"?

[Gapanthersfan]

Simple. The ability to cycle through no name WRs and RBs and still win consistently in the salary cap era. Harder to tell before the cap as those teams were usually loaded. 

Extreme example: Besides Moss, name 3 WRs on the Patriots run that would be considered a true #1 receiver on better teams in the NFL. Welker? lol. Gronk was a TE. Name their big name RBs. Woodhead? Yeah, no. 

Brees turned a guy out of Hofstra in to a 1,000 yard receiver and was virtually unbeatable in the dome for a long stretch. 

Elite QBs turn JAG talent in to pro-bowlers. 

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Simple. The ability to cycle through no name WRs and RBs and still win consistently in the salary cap era. Harder to tell before the cap as those teams were usually loaded. 

Extreme example: Besides Moss, name 3 WRs on the Patriots run that would be considered a true #1 receiver on better teams in the NFL. Welker? lol. Gronk was a TE. Name their big name RBs. Woodhead? Yeah, no. 

Brees turned a guy out of Hofstra in to a 1,000 yard receiver and was virtually unbeatable in the dome for a long stretch. 

Elite QBs turn JAG talent in to pro-bowlers. 

 elite is Peyton Manning walking into Denver in 2013.  That's elite. 

Thomas (best season was 500 yards), Eric Decker, Brandon Stokely and no name TEs all paired up w/ a meh backfield.  With John Fox overseeing the O.  THAT is a very bad offensive situation. 

 But that was also a top 5 O with a QB leading the NFL in comp % and top 3 in TDs. 

elite QBs fix the bad.  Now Peyton was a comical example of it.  But if Peyton can do that.....a good QB could muster average offense in Carolina last year and this year. 

[Gapanthersfan]

20 minutes ago, CRA said:

 elite is Peyton Manning walking into Denver in 2013.  That's elite. 

Thomas (best season was 500 yards), Eric Decker, Brandon Stokely and no name TEs all paired up w/ a meh backfield.  With John Fox overseeing the O.  THAT is a very bad offensive situation. 

 But that was also a top 5 O with a QB leading the NFL in comp % and top 3 in TDs. 

elite QBs fix the bad.  Now Peyton was a comical example of it.  But if Peyton can do that.....a good QB could muster average offense in Carolina last year and this year. 

Exactly. Elite QBs can get dropped on to any team and instantly make them contenders. 

Josh Allen with Tet, Coker and Chuba and last year’s o line? Imagine a QB who could throw a dart 35 yard to those guys. Gives the defense a rest and this team would be at worst .500 this season with legit playoff aspirations for next season. 

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[LegioX]

Being an elite QB is putting the team on your back. Being an elite QB Elevates everyone around you. Being an elite QB is someone who comes in clutch when it matters.

[raleigh-panther]

On 9/14/2025 at 6:05 PM, toldozer said:

He ain't 190 pounds get fuging real

He is going by the combine which im sure the panthers use in their propaganda still

lot of rumors of how he got to that weight 

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[The Lobo]

I think what makes a qb elite is when every week you think your team has a chance to win because of your qb. No matter who they play, they always make you feel like you have a chance. I have not gotten that feeling once while watching Bryce.