Schefter: Tet McMillan did not practice today (calf)

[jb2288]

24 minutes ago, t96 said:

I was never an advocate for trading AT but does he even have a catch for the Vikings? Lol

No idea I’m not a Vikings fan. Does anyone on here honestly think he wouldn’t have at least 12-15 catches for us through 3 games?

[kungfoodude]

34 minutes ago, t96 said:

Coker being out is a HUGE loss. Once he’s back our WR group will look much better. He was easily our best receiver last year and it wasn’t close. Tet looks the part and frankly with an actual QB all our WRs would look better than they do with Bryce, even XL

We will see. I disagree on XL. More likely he would actually look worse because others would elevate their play and its unlikely he is capable of doing that.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

No idea I’m not a Vikings fan. Does anyone on here honestly think he wouldn’t have at least 12-15 catches for us through 3 games?

He would probably be soaking up a lot of TMac's targets. Bryce had a definitive connection with him, for better or worse.

[strato]

1 hour ago, jb2288 said:

No idea I’m not a Vikings fan. Does anyone on here honestly think he wouldn’t have at least 12-15 catches for us through 3 games?

Just looked.
3 games

6 targets

2 receptions 

26 yds

No TDs

I felt like that deal was wife driven - kids probably didn’t like Charlotte, probably missed their friends wife misses her family etc  And he has to hear about it  Keeping peace in the home front 

Just speculations but that’s the vibe I got from it   

 

[jb2288]

4 minutes ago, strato said:

Just looked.
3 games

6 targets

2 receptions 

26 yds

No TDs

I felt like that deal was wife driven - kids probably didn’t like Charlotte, probably missed their friends wife misses her family etc  And he has to hear about it  Keeping peace in the home front 

Just speculations but that’s the vibe I got from it   

 

Oh 100%. I get it I’d do the same if I was him but as a fan would prefer Dan cared more about what’s best for the team vs keeping some vets wife happy 

[t96]

2 hours ago, jb2288 said:

No idea I’m not a Vikings fan. Does anyone on here honestly think he wouldn’t have at least 12-15 catches for us through 3 games?

Maybe but I don't think he'd much of an upgrade, frankly. He's clearly lost a significant step. Again, I was not advocating for the trade, I'd rather have just kept him. But I hardly think he'd be changing the equation much here. Coker's injury sucked but if we kept AT and that led to less opportunity for Coker throughout the season that would be worse than where we're at now. Need to see what we have in the young guys, XL included. I think XL is a massive bust but better to give him reps the rest of the year and be sure than give up this soon. Tet and Coker should be the top 2 WRs in targets though once Coker is back. Tet obviously is the top dog and deserves to be, he's a bonafide stud that much is already clear.

[t96]

1 hour ago, jb2288 said:

Oh 100%. I get it I’d do the same if I was him but as a fan would prefer Dan cared more about what’s best for the team vs keeping some vets wife happy 

Best for the team this season or best for the team in general? Sure AT might be better for us winning games this season (maybe he helps us get 1 extra win over the course of a season...), but is that really what's best for the team? The picks are whatever but evaluating and developing young players would be my number 1 priority this year, young WR included. And Thielen getting targets over the young guys could jeopardize that. I'd have been fine keeping him too, I don't think it's a huge deal either way.

[strato]

6 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Oh 100%. I get it I’d do the same if I was him but as a fan would prefer Dan cared more about what’s best for the team vs keeping some vets wife happy 

I think there is an argument to be made that this might have been best for the team. 
These young guys have to step up. No Bryce safety blanket makes him have to learn to trust some other guys. 
Time will tell. 
An ancillary benefit might be that Morgan is viewed by potential FAs as a solid straight up guy to deal with. 

[Waldo]

That trade up isn't looking so genius now. Im not sure he will turn it around here after the PR blitz they put out on him. Just trade him and learn freaking something from it finally. Players are not fixing the seat situation at the stadium. A good product on Sundays will. Boring ass football won't.

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, t96 said:

Maybe but I don't think he'd much of an upgrade, frankly. He's clearly lost a significant step. Again, I was not advocating for the trade, I'd rather have just kept him. But I hardly think he'd be changing the equation much here. Coker's injury sucked but if we kept AT and that led to less opportunity for Coker throughout the season that would be worse than where we're at now. Need to see what we have in the young guys, XL included. I think XL is a massive bust but better to give him reps the rest of the year and be sure than give up this soon. Tet and Coker should be the top 2 WRs in targets though once Coker is back. Tet obviously is the top dog and deserves to be, he's a bonafide stud that much is already clear.

I don't think he lost any steps from last year even a little bit. The steps you are talking about he lost several years ago.

[mrcompletely11]

10 hours ago, strato said:

Just looked.
3 games

6 targets

2 receptions 

26 yds

No TDs

I felt like that deal was wife driven - kids probably didn’t like Charlotte, probably missed their friends wife misses her family etc  And he has to hear about it  Keeping peace in the home front 

Just speculations but that’s the vibe I got from it   

 

She could have moved without him and kept the money.  She seems like a handful 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

10 hours ago, strato said:

Just looked.
3 games

6 targets

2 receptions 

26 yds

No TDs

I felt like that deal was wife driven - kids probably didn’t like Charlotte, probably missed their friends wife misses her family etc  And he has to hear about it  Keeping peace in the home front 

Just speculations but that’s the vibe I got from it   

 

That’s part of the reason I hated it. Beyond first-world problems. Why did we have to placate her when they could literally move back there in a few months lol

[strato]

2 hours ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

That’s part of the reason I hated it. Beyond first-world problems. Why did we have to placate her when they could literally move back there in a few months lol

I don’t know. The giving up 2 million dollars is a bit extreme. Who doesn’t need two million dollars? 

Edited 1 hour ago by strato

[tukafan21]

14 hours ago, strato said:

Just looked.
3 games

6 targets

2 receptions 

26 yds

No TDs

I felt like that deal was wife driven - kids probably didn’t like Charlotte, probably missed their friends wife misses her family etc  And he has to hear about it  Keeping peace in the home front 

Just speculations but that’s the vibe I got from it   

 

I don't understand why this whole thing is so tough to understand, it's very simple.

Neither Thielen nor his wife wanted out of Carolina, it's why he signed the new deal to come back here this year.

The Vikings had WR injury issues in camp, when that happened they then needed a WR and reached out to us to try and get Thielen.  Once that happened, it changed everything, because it was an opportunity for a player who lived his whole life in that state, to go home for his final NFL season.

Once that was on the table, yea, of course he's going to then "request a trade", but what people don't seem to grasp, is that Thielen didn't just come out and ask Morgan to trade him.  It ONLY happened because the Vikings became WR desperate in the weeks leading into the season, but I'm a million percent convinced if they didn't, we'd never have considered trading him and he wouldn't have asked for one.

It was a very unique situation that arose because of another team's needs, not Thielen's doing, and it was ONLY happening with that one team, no others would have made us want to trade him, especially for a bag of peanuts.

Now, had we still looked this bad to start the year, I think he'd have been traded to a contender at the deadline to just get something for him, but that then would have been a different and smart move at that time.

Edited 1 hour ago by tukafan21