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Perfect Way to Sum up how poo the Panthers Are.


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14 hours ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

I mean we HAVE been the Browns even since the clown Tepper took over, So I guess reality is finally just setting in for most of you......that's sad 

I been saying that for years now. I sat down and compared the 1999-2017 Browns to our 2018-(can't remember the last time I did it) period and we were demonstrably worse early compared to their early era. I will take a look and post again.

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15 hours ago, LegioX said:

Sad part is Tepper probably doesn’t give a F. He still making money 

This is the correct answer right here.  As long as he's making money, he's winning.  Results on the field don't matter.  Results on his investment do.....

Until THAT changes, and it won't, we're stuck with him until he dies.  Then it's the Nicole Panthers.

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On 9/28/2025 at 4:20 PM, d-dave said:

So what is the solution here?

I was thinking about it, but how do we get better?  I just think it's the Tepper curse.  We've been absolute garbage since Tepper came in and fugged it all up.

So who would be our next coach then?  I'm all on the bring back steve wilks.  But would he want to come back?

Tepper is the common denominator. 

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On 9/28/2025 at 4:48 PM, kungfoodude said:

You will never be able to get him out of decisions. Snyder tried it at one point, it was successful and he reversed course because it "wasn't fun."

Tepper thinks he knows better than anyone in the NFL. It's that level of confident incompetence that will always keep the franchise behind the 8 ball 

Why does he think he has to be involved in the draft, etc.  He hires people to do that.

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