You know what's worse about the QB situation?

[micnificent28]

I haven't thrown Bryce away yet.. tho I have lowered my potential outcome for him. I don't think he's ever going to be a top 6 QB.. he can be good enough to drive you to the prom as long as you give him a chaperone.. but really after all the stank that was on Sanders..

Dude fell to what the 5th round.. Cleveland took a QB before him and circled back a round or 2 later before we had the idea to take him as a back up or safety net. I don't think you should ever not scout quarterbacks just off the potential of possibly trading one for higher compensation like the Patriots did with Joe Milton. Just for trade packages and compensation you should always be grooming training or preparing a young late round QB for such situations. 

I don't understand the thinking of we have Bryce and Dalton we don't even need to think about another quarterback we're like set for generations here we're good..

 

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[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I haven't thrown Bryce away yet.. tho I have lowered my potential outcome for him. I don't think he's ever going to be a top 6 QB.. he can be good enough to drive you to the prom as long as you give him a chaperone.. but really after all the stank that was on Sanders..

Dude fell to what the 5th round.. Cleveland took a QB before him and circled back a round or 2 later before we had the idea to take him as a back up or safety net. I don't think you should ever not scout quarterbacks just off the potential of possibly trading one for higher compensation like the Patriots did with Joe Milton. Just for trade packages and compensation you should always be grooming training or preparing a young late round QB for such situations. 

I don't understand the thinking of we have Bryce and Dalton we don't even need to think about another quarterback we're like set for generations here we're good..

 

This was a very weak QB draft and there were players available that could help us immediately given the extreme lack of quality players on the roster at the time(and now).

I mean, don't get me wrong, we mostly managed to avoid those players that could help us immediately.

[csx]

I wont argue against more attempts but its not like Sanders is a notably better prospect than Hooker.

[frankw]

Whatever the Panthers do going forward after this season it better be with a mindset that you always need some level of competition in the QB room. Nobody cares about how much the starting QB likes the second or third string QB's. They aren't here to knit sweaters they're here to play football and compete.

[mrcompletely11]

57 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This was a very weak QB draft and there were players available that could help us immediately given the extreme lack of quality players on the roster at the time(and now).

I mean, don't get me wrong, we mostly managed to avoid those players that could help us immediately.

Maybe, its too early to say but we have to have one.  Rolling a poo vet out without someone developing seems like purgatory 

[micnificent28]

18 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Maybe, its too early to say but we have to have one.  Rolling a poo vet out without someone developing seems like purgatory 

Agreed. And at some point Dalton won't be Dalton anymore there isn't anything wrong with drafting a young backup. 

[micnificent28]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

This was a very weak QB draft and there were players available that could help us immediately given the extreme lack of quality players on the roster at the time(and now).

I mean, don't get me wrong, we mostly managed to avoid those players that could help us immediately.

That is probably true.. but was sanders so weak himself that he wasn't a top 3 round QB? He couldn't be any worse as a prospect as say Desmond ridder or that dude I forget we drafted in the 3rd round and is now playing in the arena league a few years ago.

[LinvilleGorge]

21 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Maybe, its too early to say but we have to have one.  Rolling a poo vet out without someone developing seems like purgatory 

He's talking about this year's draft as in the guys who are currently rookies, not next year's draft.

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Maybe, its too early to say but we have to have one.  Rolling a poo vet out without someone developing seems like purgatory 

I don't think with a roster this bad we should be spamming picks at subpar QB's for development purposes. When the roster is a little more fleshed out, I would fully support that.

Also, with our persistent evaluation problems, I can only imagine who we would have likely overdrafted in the past few years.

[TD alt]

55 minutes ago, csx said:

I wont argue against more attempts but its not like Sanders is a notably better prospect than Hooker.

I hear Huddlers throwing things similar about Sanders whenever his name comes up, but to put it bluntly, we don't know that to be true. What we do know is that plenty of Browns fans thought that Sanders had the best camp out of the bunch, notwithstanding not being given the opportunity to play with the ones. What has been reported is that Dillon Gabriel is Stefanski's guy, and Andrew Berry thought that Sanders should be prioritized (even if it meant that he would eventually trade Sanders due to Sanders having more value). The fact that many Browns fans preferred (and prefer now) Sanders, and that there was a split---or difference of opinion between Stefanski and Berry, isn't really up for debate. It's true. 

What this all means, at the end of the day, is that we don't know how Sanders compares to Hooker or anyone else because he really hasn't had an opportunity to play for whatever reasons. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

That is probably true.. but was sanders so weak himself that he wasn't a top 3 round QB? He couldn't be any worse as a prospect as say Desmond ridder or that dude I forget we drafted in the 3rd round and is now playing in the arena league a few years ago.

I liked Sanders field reading abilities in general but his ceiling is fairly low and his shenanigans as a pro are, quite frankly, bizarre. 

I don't think he is doing himself any favors by being a distraction while also being buried on the depth chart. Don't get me wrong, the media would attempt to make him a distraction regardless but it's not smart to feed into it when you aren't having a role at all.

This can also be said of XL, BTW. We are no stranger to this.

It's a lot easier to excuse Cam dressing like a deleted scene Harry Potter character at press conferences when he is looking like a man among boys on the football field. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Top 6? I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't think Bryce has the potential to become a top 6 backup.

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Top 6? I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't think Bryce has the potential to become a top 6 backup.

Now this I can argue against.. if we talking backup I think Bryce will have a nice long NFL career... He doesn't make a ton of bad reads.. he is mobile.. I think he can not lose you games if you have the table set for him.. but the ability to make those around him better elevate a bad offense mask bad players like say cam going to the super bowl with Bryon bell and philly brown.. no doesn't have that. 

[Panthera onca]

It would have hurt Bryce’s widdle feelings to bring in competition at QB.