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The Bryce Young "Game Winning Drive" narrative needs to end


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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

No one was beating Seattle in Seattle that year. Certainly not whomever won between Chicago and Carolina. That game was a war zone  

we would have needed the redskins to pull off the upset.

When Smitty made the crazy PR, I thought we may had a slim shot, but just didn't have the firepower left.  Our entire offense was Smitty down the stretch that year. 

 

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40 minutes ago, strato said:

We opened with Green Bay on MNF as I recall.  Viola, no more Smitty. 

3 things remember about that Monday night game 

1. The packers fans were drunk as hell I’m Uptown before the game as most arrived around 11am.  It wasn’t pretty

2. I got to meet Kevin Green by total accident at one of the events on Trade St  by the Omni.  He looked like he could have still suited up     nice nice man  always a long time favorite of mine  RIP

3. Steve Smith’s broken leg.  My PSLs were on 35 yard line Panthers side. I saw him crawl hand over hand on the ground by the near hash mark to the sideline instead of waiting for the trainers and a gurney. Toughest player I ever saw.  

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4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Morgan “played” 13 games in 2005 but didn’t finish a lot of them and was generally pretty beat up. Got taken out of several games with “shoulder stingers.” 2005 was the season his concussions just became too much and he’s said so in interviews. We know this now looking back.  This was around the time they started writing all the stories about his hyperbaric sleep chamber and special mouth pieces etc. he couldn’t stay on the field  

Rucker, Buckner and Minter were all washed. Buckner retired after the season.  

al Wallace and Jordan Carstens were rotational players?

thomas Davis was a rotational safety in 2005 who only started two games. Secondary in general was pretty bad. Gamble specifically regressed notably. Passing defense was 21st in the nfl. And gamble is probably the most overrated defensive player in panthers history.  

 

Morgan finished 2nd in tackles in 2005 so he was still effective when he played. I expected you to discount the rest of the defense. But your opinion about the other guys is very skewed to your agenda and not universally shared. But I am going to.let you guys argue among yourself as it is 1030 pm in France which is the only reason I am posting at all. And I will be here and in Barcelona the rest of the month. So save all the comment to me until then. I doubt I will be checking in much and in comparison these tired old arguments don't compare to the Louvre or Notre Dame which is where we went today. Got to get sleep to head to Nice tomorrow to watch my son in law compete for the US in the Mondial du pan international bread competition. I might be able to watch a game the next few Sundays. Au revoir.

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9 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Morgan finished 2nd in tackles in 2005 so he was still effective when he played. I expected you to discount the rest of the defense. But your opinion about the other guys is very skewed to your agenda and not universally shared. But I am going to.let you guys argue among yourself as it is 1030 pm in France which is the only reason I am posting at all. And I will be here and in Barcelona the rest of the month. So save all the comment to me until then. I doubt I will be checking in much and in comparison these tired old arguments don't compare to the Louvre or Notre Dame which is where we went today. Got to get sleep to head to Nice tomorrow to watch my son in law compete for the US in the Mondial du pan international bread competition. I might be able to watch a game the next few Sundays. Au revoir.

Paris..Don’t get knifed. Be safe. 

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28 minutes ago, strato said:

Paris..Don’t get knifed. Be safe. 

Truth is I have found the French to be much friendlier than Americans in big cities. They love children and randomly have offered directions and when having to take grandchildren on and off trains or having to climb stairs random people both male and female have come up offering to help carry the stroller up the stairs without being asked. Didn't happen at JFK on the way over. Frankly I feel much safer here than in most US cities. So you be safe.

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38 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Truth is I have found the French to be much friendlier than Americans in big cities. They love children and randomly have offered directions and when having to take grandchildren on and off trains or having to climb stairs random people both male and female have come up offering to help carry the stroller up the stairs without being asked. Didn't happen at JFK on the way over. Frankly I feel much safer here than in most US cities. So you be safe.

It’s the French that are getting knifed. Keep your head on a swivel. 

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On 10/16/2025 at 5:11 PM, panthers55 said:

Truth is I have found the French to be much friendlier than Americans in big cities. They love children and randomly have offered directions and when having to take grandchildren on and off trains or having to climb stairs random people both male and female have come up offering to help carry the stroller up the stairs without being asked. Didn't happen at JFK on the way over. Frankly I feel much safer here than in most US cities. So you be safe.

The French smugness has already started to rub off on you.

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