Drafting X is like the poster board for mistakes. Hopefully, lesson learned.

[strato]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

His per game averages are abysmal when compared to last year. The only thing that has improved is his drop %, which is down from 8.3% to 5.0%.

He is literally DFL in NFL Next Gen Avg. YAC Above Expectation. 

He has been TERRIBLE this season and he is aware.

I am surely not saying he is meeting expectations or maybe living up to hopes.
NGL I look at the positives because he is from Mullins SC.

I look at who is supposed to be getting him the ball and did a very poor job of it in I think game 2.  

I ain’t going down with the Mullins ship if he starts loafing again or slacks off of his effort at blocking where he has been making nice but thankless contributions. 
And hope he gets some more opportunities for balls and does something with them  

 

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[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, strato said:

I am surely not saying he is meeting expectations or maybe living up to hopes.
NGL I look at the positives because he is from Mullins SC.

I look at who is supposed to be getting him the ball and did a very poor job of it in I think game 2.  

I ain’t going down with the Mullins ship if he starts loafing again or slacks off of his effort at blocking where he has been making nice but thankless contributions. 
And hope he gets some more opportunities for balls and does something with them  

 

He has both loafed and played hard at times on the blocking front. I have no idea what is going on with him but he is quickly moving towards being buried on the bench if he doesn't figure it out. 

I am happy to have Coker back so we can continue to build out some WR weapons. If XL doesn't get his head in the game, he is gonna start seeing a lot less snaps.

[strato]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He has both loafed and played hard at times on the blocking front. I have no idea what is going on with him but he is quickly moving towards being buried on the bench if he doesn't figure it out. 

I am happy to have Coker back so we can continue to build out some WR weapons. If XL doesn't get his head in the game, he is gonna start seeing a lot less snaps.

It is what it is if they don’t perform. I can’t give a poo at that point 
 

And I don’t know anything to base this on really but have a bad feeling that people are placing an awful lot of hope into Coker. Who we know came in out of shape and has missed a ridiculous amount of time over an injury that no one seems to know how he got. Went for a couple of weeks to now it is week 7. 

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, strato said:

It is what it is if they don’t perform. I can’t give a poo at that point 
 

And I don’t know anything to base this on really but have a bad feeling that people are placing an awful lot of hope into Coker. Who we know came in out of shape and has missed a ridiculous amount of time over an injury that no one seems to know how he got. Went for a couple of weeks to now it is week 7. 

I think what we hope to see from Coker is the same stuff we saw last year. Great route running and good hands. I am not under any illusions that he is suddenly going to be prime Steve Smith but if you look at a guy like Jacobi Meyers, he has carved out an extremely successful NFL career as a less than elite athlete that excels at route running and getting open.

IMO, that's Coker's potential ceiling and that would be fantastic.

[electro's horse]

I think Coker might have a case of the “is fat.”

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

I think Coker might have a case of the “is fat.”

TBD. That was what the team has said but then you had all the reporters in TC talking about how great he looked conditioning wise. Either he showed up to OTA's in sad shape or there is some messaging going on.

Either way, he isn't going to be able to not be in good or great condition and have a lengthy career. He better learn that lesson early. 

It's something Nacua was public about battling.

[electro's horse]

29 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

TBD. That was what the team has said but then you had all the reporters in TC talking about how great he looked conditioning wise. Either he showed up to OTA's in sad shape or there is some messaging going on.

He’s missed a month and a half with a non contact soft tissue strain 

dude is out of shape. I don’t care what they told Joe person to say. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

He’s missed a month and a half with a non contact soft tissue strain 

dude is out of shape. I don’t care what they told Joe person to say. 

I asked Google to debunk you and it didn't.

[csx]

1 hour ago, strato said:

Okay yes it’s low but he missed two games and the two games he was back for RICO had almost all the offense. 
 

The last game before he was out, the passes were not helping him. 
 

It’s not trying to take up for him as much as it putting it into some context. 
I mean if he hadn’t missed those two games and had 100 yards instead of 50 it would still be disappointing. 

50 yds is awful for 4 games.

[strato]

5 minutes ago, csx said:

50 yds is awful for 4 games.

I believe I said that 100 would be disappointing so not sure how I was disputing you there. 

[electro's horse]

29 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I asked Google to debunk you and it didn't.

“Out of shape people take longer to recover?!

Google, say it ain’t so!”

[Mage]

12 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

XL has upside for days.

A WR with bad hands does not have "upside for days."

We're talking about a guy who had 423 receiving yards in his first 4 years of college.  I had more faith in guys like Funchess and LaFell than I do Legette.

[KaseKlosed]

On 10/15/2025 at 5:16 AM, TD alt said:

Yeah, I could jump right into the unbelievable Bryce debate now that some people are trying to flip the script because Bryce Young has, at most, a handful of decent games as a pro, but that's going to work itself out. Suffice it to say that I've seen better QBs (with an s) in a Panthers uniform, and I've certainly seen better QBs be drafted while we're playing around with Bryce, one of them who beat the crap out of us already this season...

Let's forget about Bryce (and his markedly underwhelming play since he's been here); I think that most sane fans will agree that drafting him was an error, but it happens. Sure, it doesn't happen to the tune of King's ransom---including your main receiver---but it happens. You bet, you lose. Speaking of receivers...and betting and losing...

Oh, man, we drafted Xavier Legette. Yes, just like with Bryce, I've entered "the dark side." Some Huddlers were telling us from the beginning, and they were right. But, I'm not apologizing for waiting to see what a guy's got before making my decision on him.

X was a one-year wonder at South Carolina who parlayed some really nice production that season, a great personality and thick country accent, into becoming a first round pick (but only in Carolina). For Dan Morgan and company, He was a big swing that has turned into a big whiff (and I can still feel the ill breeze from that one). Sh¡t happens, right? Well, not so fast. Ladd McConkey was the decidedly more polished receiver who was literally ready to hit the ground running as soon as stepping onto the field as a pro. Ladd was never the biggest guy (though not the smallest), but he was the guy that could run routes, always seemed to get open---no question---and had the same speed as X, but with legit quickness and nuanced shake and bake. But Dan chose the project. He chose the guy where the game speed looks more like a tractor trailer than a 5.0 mustang.

Look, I've supported X (just like Bryce) many many a day, but no more. Now I'm not saying that I won't root for the guy. Just like with Bryce, he seems like a great kid. But as far as giving excuses for the kid, and, perhaps more importantly, waiting for some miraculous breakout, I'm done with that. I've seen enough. You don't draft a project for a project. And yes, Bryce had proven to be a project after his first season. In my mind, drafting a supposedly number one receiver that needs lots of development for a starting quarterback that needs immediate help to try and further his development is not going to lead to good things. Pick the surest guy. Or at least pick the one who appears to be the surest guy, because picking can be tricky... especially when you're too busy tricking yourself. 

Hey man if you are just going to be negative about the players after a great game just pick another team. Thanks.