Trade for a QB?

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but that was an abnormal situation. Flacco wasn't getting the results and wasn't going to be a part of their future. There isn't an equivalent situation that makes us better or makes sense for us. 

Especially not at a bargain bin price. You want to trade for a guy like Tua? Well....good luck with the price AND the contract. 

There is a dearth of quality starting QB's. That also means there aren't a bunch of them sitting on the bench elsewhere.

Woah, how did we get from Flacco to Tua?

[kungfoodude]

25 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Woah, how did we get from Flacco to Tua?

Well they both were/are starters. Wasn't after Tua specifically but just an example of a starter that a team is ready to move on from.

It's not realistic after I looked at the cap situation. Miami would get flattened with dead cap.

[Evil Hurney]

2 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

High ankle sprain, 2-4 weeks, that said, no one is coming in and getting the playbook down better than what Dalton or Hooker will be able to do over the next 2 weeks.  We are not in buy in win now mode, we are still a developing project that was in a hopeful position at this point.  Use andy, if ineffective, use Hooker.

Ultimately our formula the last 3 weeks winning has been Run. The. Ball.  Whether its Rico or Chuba, we will run the ball atleast 30 times and ask Dalton to be opportunistic and that should be it.

I could see someone like Bryce Perkins or our old friend Jack Plummer added to the practice squad while Hooker gets elevated. But I agree that by the time a new QB gets the PB down enough, Bryce Young should be healed up any draft capital is essentially wasted.

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

I could see someone like Bryce Perkins or our old friend Jack Plummer added to the practice squad while Hooker gets elevated. But I agree that by the time a new QB gets the PB down enough, Bryce Young should be healed up any draft capital is essentially wasted.

Sounds like they plan to sign someone to be the backup. I am sure they have very little faith in Hooker.

[Sup]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

How much of it is due to Bryce forcing you into a very conservative offensive gameplan though? Their TD:INT ratios are virtually identical. If you have Bryce slinging it around like Jameis you probably end up with similar turnover numbers.

This is a very good point. Like sure it's easy to not throw many picks when you don't or can't challenge a defense and just let the running game do most of the work.

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, Sup said:

This is a very good point. Like sure it's easy to not throw many picks when you don't or can't challenge a defense and just let the running game do most of the work.

Also hard to throw INTs when most of your incompletions end up landing in the dirt before even reaching the WR or DB

[Sup]

If Legette can build on this game it's such a waste to have this receiving corps thrown to with Bryce. Need someone who can fling it down field and let them make plays even if they're not necessarily the "best" QB. Like how Daunte Culpeper played with Randy Moss.

[Jon Snow]

This is getting ridiculous. Fantasy football numbers are all some of you care about. Wins are the last thing you care about. I've seen you type that out. Some only care about a single player and whether or not they get they're yards. I think im fanning wrong. If a win causes this much angst for some of you i dont understandwhy you even watch. Don't worry though, they will return to loosing soon enough and you can go back to bitching about that too.

[Sup]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

This is getting ridiculous. Fantasy football numbers are all some of you care about. Wins are the last thing you care about. I've seen you type that out. Some only care about a single player and whether or not they get they're yards. I think im fanning wrong. If a win causes this much angst for some of you i dont understandwhy you even watch. Don't worry though, they will return to loosing soon enough and you can go back to bitching about that too.

The fact that you recognized that we're likely to go back to losing soon is the whole point. Some of us can look beyond unimpressive wins against crappy opponents and realize we're not in good shape for the long haul. And we're doubly frustrated because we think the rest of the team is pretty good and one key position is holding his back.

[rebelrouser]

Kirk Cousins is available for a measly 27.5M a year.  He might get us another win.  

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, Sup said:

The fact that you recognized that we're likely to go back to losing soon is the whole point. Some of us can look beyond unimpressive wins against crappy opponents and realize we're not in good shape for the long haul. And we're doubly frustrated because we think the rest of the team is pretty good and one key position is holding his back.

Ah the old 1 player away defense. You will get educated next week. Yes we do need a long term answer at qb, I'm not debating that. I'm am saying that the answer is not someone else's 3rd string qb. That isn't going to happen to the same franchise twice. Neither is a once in a generation qb walking through the door again. All you guys want is someone throwing a deep ball every other play. It doesn't work that way. So you guys might as well shut up about it until the season is over. 

[Sup]

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Ah the old 1 player away defense. You will get educated next week. Yes we do need a long term answer at qb, I'm not debating that. I'm am saying that the answer is not someone else's 3rd string qb. That isn't going to happen to the same franchise twice. Neither is a once in a generation qb walking through the door again. All you guys want is someone throwing a deep ball every other play. It doesn't work that way. So you guys might as well shut up about it until the season is over. 

You know you don't have a good argument when you make up what the other person is thinking. Nobody wants a deep ball every other play, but we want that to be something we can do. And I do not plan to shut up so you can shut up if you have a problem with it.

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Ah the old 1 player away defense. You will get educated next week. Yes we do need a long term answer at qb, I'm not debating that. I'm am saying that the answer is not someone else's 3rd string qb. That isn't going to happen to the same franchise twice. Neither is a once in a generation qb walking through the door again. All you guys want is someone throwing a deep ball every other play. It doesn't work that way. So you guys might as well shut up about it until the season is over. 

I don't think people are saying we're 1 player away from being a contender.

I do though think it's a very legitimate statement to say, "we're 1 player away from this team looking like they're moving in the right direction and have a chance to get into contention in the next few years"

As I don't think we're 1 player away from contention, not even close, still need holes to fill (or young players to get better in the coming years) on defense before we can ever enter that conversation.

But if we had a legitimate QB who could be our long term solution, I think we'd be passing the eye test of a team on the rise, not looking like we do now, and that's of a middling team who is squeaking by wins against some of the worst teams in the league.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Sup said:

You know you don't have a good argument when you make up what the other person is thinking. Nobody wants a deep ball every other play, but we want that to be something we can do. And I do not plan to shut up so you can shut up if you have a problem with it.

By all means keep talking. You think we have e a great team being held back by one player. I say we are being held back by more than one player. History will tell us who's right.